In games , pvp’ers are the wolves, pve’ers the sheep. The sheep outnumber the wolves so eventually get their way.
That is not what I was saying, or the conversation was about. It is about that some people think people are complaining about the price increase because they can’t afford the sub by month to month. For some people they cant. They are saying since it is cheaper to sub for 1 or 2 years then save money and such. Well for 10 accounts that puts it at 1500 or 2700 bucks to sub all my accounts. That begs the question am i suppose to max out my card or go over my credit limit so I can get my eve subs at the lost cost? I have no issue paying the current month cost just choose not to like many people have which is partly why subs are back down to old costs for alts.
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O I see my bad. I do agree It would be in CCP’s best interest to cut off some of the early curve to like 14 for 1 month to 12(pm) for 1 year or 11(pm) for 2 years and give a 20% discount to all linked accounts or something CCP is pricing 1 char as an eve experience when the eve experience is including alt’s for a lot of people.
If I had to do quick math for you situation that would be 11 for your main and 8.8 per alt 2164 for 2 years but If you have 10 alts I would rather do the 1 year instead.
You can NOT just increase price without proper announcement through personal active mail. You can`t expect everyone to read this silly forum and passively leech more money. Policy like these will be the final axe swing to your dying playerbase. Who came up with that brilliant idea ? Rollback to what it was and decrease montly fee to EUR 9,99 / mo or it will end after 20 years.
Betting this thread’ll still be awash with unsubs and complaints when I come back again next month to check.
Has CCP even considered rolling this nonsense back, because I doubt that goofy alt-thing is going to save them from this one?
EDIT: Note, subs aren’t necessary for multiboxing: KVM - ArchWiki
Seems to be a variety of non tempting offers currently. I dont see how they can rollback without refunds for people that have spent in the interim. Honestly I just want the 3month/3month deal is all. That has been my buy in.
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Just unsubed my 4 accounts. Going to just sell off my assets and buy PLEX to stay omega - as long as it lasts. Then BYe BYe CCP.
Eve Online is one of my most played games. I’ve been playing it very actively since about 2010 and I’m still enjoying it, and the innovations coming for some groups of players are good too.
But what now robs me of the fun of playing is the subscription model, that you have to pay 20 euros for a month, why does it have to be such a high increase? When I see that a good 10 years ago there were still a good 60,000 players in the game, which of course also has to do with a lot of game changes, and today there are maybe 30,000 players. You should think twice about continuing down this path. They’ve lost so many players to game changes and other things.
CCP is doing you a favor, reconsider and listen to your players. in particular which content is important and what needs to be changed. Now there is also a price increase that chases away the players in the long term. Don’t we have enough problems in the world that weigh us down and make us think? Now it’s even more expensive to play. I hope you reconsider your subscription model.
fly safe
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See, CCP are making enough profit without growth.
On the other hand, coming back to the game after a break, the community in game has become boring. 1 guy sitting in a rorq with 10 alts mining isn’t a community and isn’t engaging.
There was a time when you’d have 1 guy in a rorq with 10 other people mining.
Eve was essentially a chat client at that point, but it was fun to sit in space zapping rocks and chatting with new friends.
The excessive multiboxing is definitely having a negative effect of the game.
I suspect they’ve done the math to figure out that at this price, people will happily sit at 2-3 accounts. But you’re not going to have 10 boring af zombie alts pretending to be a corp.
It’s not solving the issue of bums on seats though, instead of one player with 10 accounts logged in you’ve got one player with 5 accounts logged in. What you want is 5 players with 5 accounts logged in but without content and with an increase in subscription cost that is never going to happen.
CCP need to realise it’s bums on seats that will prolong the game, I’d argue dropping the subscription cost would have been a better move.
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I really thought at this point we would be past the bombastic demand type posts. I was wrong.
Why are they required to send you a personal announcement through “active mail”? Is that a law in your country or just something you feel you are entitled to because reasons?
The price is NOT going to get rolled back. That would be pointless. The people who have quit would not come back so there would be zero benefit to it.
And heres me thinking the original price was steep!? bound to happen eventually i just want to know if i can trade in plex for less game time instead of buying one months of omega game time id like to be able to buy 1 day omega game time this will help me to budget so much better considering i dont have that kind of money every month and i have never played this game for an entire month of membership anyways so would be really great for us poor people!!
Except that 1 guy now needs other players to help him meet his rent and quotas or he gets evicted.
Bear in mind I’m not saying it’s a good idea, or will work they way want (forcing players to form communities to work together).
But I believe this is what they’re aiming for.
They’re definitely trying to bring back those aspects of yne game
Yeah I think you’re right, but that one guy is just going to walk away from the game, he’s not going to find others to help because there are no others at the moment.
I don’t think CCP will ever see an increase in player collaboration and population by effectively removing content for the past two years and increasing sub cost.
When you look at activities such as mining and PvP where efficiency would scale with collaboration they’ve been hit hard over the past couple of years. You can’t force people to work together in a game by making the game an endless grind and then asking for more money for the inconvenience. It’s a game, an escape, a place to relax, it should not be a grind for Plex or a burden on the wallet value wise.
I love the game, I extended my sub on the historical price because that’s what I value the game at currently. If the content value doesn’t increase in 12 months to justify the cost increase then I’ll likely walk away. And graphic updates will absolutely not be enough, the game needs content and fast I think.
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Sooo true…
Also, I’m tired of spending my TIME and MONEY to train something just to have it nerfed and made useless.
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■■■■■■■■ because you just “see” the player that can afford the TIME to continously play the game. For me that is out of question as I am in project business and have only the one or two month to play between projects.
Second to that… The provided “content” over the years was way too low for my taste. So increase in fee but no content provided means no money from my side.
Just my 2 cents and no, I still need my stuff
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EVE Online has two main issues:
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Zero f**ks given about new or ramping-up players. “We throw you in the ocean and either you’ll drown or you’ll swim”. I am (was) a ramping-up player and I want to just confirm that all these changes in recent 1-2 years is just a facade, nobody cares what WE young players think and need. It’s just a facade to mark a task “ Improve new player experience” done.
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Absolutely ridiculous pricing. First of all - asking MONTHLY for a sandbox game (where players make content, not devs) a price of a full decent game is pure greed. Buying Omega cost me more than paying for my 300/300 Mbps broadband connection. This is sick.
Second thing - 15€ = 15$. I live in neither dollar nor euro country and I am forced to pay in euro, meaning 20% higher price. I had to create a fresh acc on Steam to be able to use prices converted from dollars to my local currency.
Third and final thing - seeing “Omega price changes” my immediate thought was “Oh God, niceeee, finally someone did a sanity check about the prices, I kind of miss Eve and lower prices = count me in!”.
But then I read the news and it was like “HAHAHAHA. Uninstall”.
It took me few months (of not playing Eve) to make up my mind and finally say “good bye” for good.
I’ve just uninstalled the game and to be honest I feel a relief.
I just logged in to the forum for the last time to say what I think about all of this and say a last “good bye”.
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This is not a single F … U… by CCP but only the latest in a long line of " Take it or leave it " well I would hazard a guess this has slapped them in the face yet again. This game was NICHE, the players were different from the console players, for the most part. They were devoted to the game, hence the number of players that plexed multiple characters all the time. CCp acts like the aggressor in a bad relationship, and we the players are the ones getting beat on. Time to break free, and alot have finally said bye bye. It doesnt matter that CCP is not in control anymore, One plie of crap doesnt smell better than the next.
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Exactly, CCP tries to change content by nerfing everything that was introduced in past updates. Constantly trying to reinvent your preferred game play style doesnt work for most people or for very long. And this is touted as a space sandbox, you can play how you want. Not for a very long time now. Sure there have been major exploits that have harmed to game, but who brought those changes into the game even while being told by the player base not to do these things. All we ever get is we know whats best, we are the programmers. Thats worked wonders in the past…
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Didnt you hear? They are removing the skill training :’) :’)
Im actually not sure what this games going to do, They need to move and move quick and they just arent. They promised we would have content announced that made the game worth $20, And i have not yet seen an update thats justified that, Or an announcement.
Sure the UI changes and graphics changes are cool, But they are not content, and the game is majorly lacking both end game and mid game content.