[Discussion] PLEX and Omega price changes feedback thread

No MMO has the massive single server that CCP needs to manage on a day-to-day basis with thousands of interacting variables also.

A vast majority of players would not have gotten into EVE if it wasn’t for the alpha system. Honestly from the advertising I see online vs the actual game and then being asked to pay right off the bat? I would not be here today. I play EVE because of the unique ISK-Plex-Omega market that no other game has on the scale of EVE.

I can’t refute this one as well as A and B but to me as a younger EVE player relative to the time span of the game. So, I am not bitter about CCP selling out as others are. What’s your definition of a dead/dyeing game? Does a game die in your book?

I personally don’t let myself get so emotionally attached to a game. I have been here for about 4 years on 2 different characters. I have been plexing for pretty much 3.5 years. I seen some faults with CCP. I see some smart ideas CCP has had. There is no other true game that can fill the void EVE creates in us. It’s why many people come back after they “quit” Take a break from EVE. There is a high chance you and many others will check EVE out again after some months ---- years.

You just keep defending CCP and their crap. There is no way in hell you can prove that a “majority” of players got into the game due to the free to play option. Also pretty sure WoW has far more costs when it comes to servers then EVE does and they didn’t/haven’t raised their prices. As far as a dead game, I guess when the free to play accounts outnumber the pay ones then the game is on its last leg.

You are right I don’t have any hard numbers to support that. What I can say is I can see in the market still supports free to play/one time purchase games. CCP has to compete with all the other subscription services out there. I am inferring that since CCP created the alpha system there are more people in EVE today vs if they just stuck to omega. I believe it’s pretty reasonable the Alpha free to play system drew in many more people who eventually subscribed vs just being omega.
I try to be balanced in my assessments of CCP. I have seen many things where I disliked CCP for doing. The mining changes really forced to change my playstyle.

I believe WoW is not on the level of complexity EVE faces on a day-to-day basis of keeping the server running. However, I would like to be proved wrong.

Comes back to your first point there is no data that we can see how many alpha/omega players there are. Naturally I still assume it should be more omega players in eve as you can’t multibox alphas.

The decline of EVE is similar in a way to SWG. IN SWG, you had a living breathing universe, players strived to one day become jedi.

Sony dumbed down the game and made jedi a starting class, similar to CCP selling PLEX from the store and allowing you to buy years worth of skill points,dumbing down requirment for ships, new players being able to pretty much hop straight into battleships.

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And then we have this:

REDNES

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That is what I liked in Eve. When our little merc corps war dec’d, hunted, chased, and killed as a team.

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I assume that was in high sec before CCP turned wars into structure bashing, removing the fun for small pvp corps.

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Retreat into unsub land and let the resulting money winter “win” the war. That victory being the end of Eve.

But if it happens it is going to be slow, then faster, then “POOF”.

CCP/Pearl Abyss are just examples of large organizations that will never admit they have made a serious stupid mistake.

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Another would be SONY who killed SWG, ignoring the players as they knew best.

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Its hard to prove anything really. Bottom line though is when you put the burden of maintaining the game on the players who pay and give a free ride to Alpha’s I think that is a mistake. I wish instead they would have offered a free Alpha account to anyone with an Omega account. 1 Omega account = 1 free Alpha account so the more Omega accounts the more Alpha accounts but only for people who are actually paying for the game. It would potentially cut some of the costs of the people who pay for the game and reward them for being loyal subscribers. Giving people something for nothing in my view is a horrible idea.

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Yeah. I thought, at the time, that CCP was just following the free to play/use thing so many software makers are using to hook the fish.

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I mean that could have been what they were doing and I still wouldn’t have liked it. Using microtransactions instead of subs in my view is ruining many MMO’s and again, it shows these companies only care about the bottom line because it is ruining the games.

I have not played for three months and i can see that loads of people have left since the price increase…

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My accounts are still valid but i have not upgraded them to Omega, i may come back but i have not really decided yet! I thought the Fanfest was very poor!

Imagine a fanfest that wasn’t about CCP doing stuff, but about what players are doing.

Hi=) May I ask, to use that option on accounts do I need to cancel on the payment side or on account side?

I was confused after I did 3x accounts using that option and since felt that I need to cancel future payments on my card side.

Inside the account info page on secure.eveonline it doesn’t show if Omegea had been canceled or not.

Yes to this. I would love a “add-on” option for training speed increase. I am aware I can buy skill injectors/extractors etc. That is not the same.

Charge me an extra 5 bucks a month and give me double/triple the training speed. It would leave the price still attainable for those on a budget and offer those not on a budget the option.

my .02

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This Is Fine

yes cant wait to see npc’s blow up enough ships to cover this and all the rest of the top kill mails

More sp farming? I already have more sp than I use.

Pretty random wolfstallion,

But yeah go to your NEOCOM, down to ships, and then ship tree. Then click on the different pirate factions and you can see what ships they have. And yes they have dreads, supers, and titans. So it isn’t like some far-off statement that it couldn’t be possible.

JJ