[Discussion] PLEX and Omega price changes feedback thread

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I totally agree with the sentiment of most people here… I was also tempted to return as other releases are a while away but… subbing for just a month or two at a time in most mmo’s is already a tough sell as it’s the least economic option.
With the price increase however, it turns eve online which despite having a loyal fanbase from a more niché mmo into something that looks extensively more unwelcoming to its own detriment.

What eve would rather benefit from is making sure people -stay- and having to debate price vs enjoyment every month at a time will drain motivation and drive away players, potential newcomers and returners alike.

It makes eve despite not appealing to the core audience, lose even more appeal due to becoming simply to expensive and looking at other games, especially something like FF14 or ESO, it seems kind of unfair almost.
FF14 has you pay for expansions but has a considerably lower sub-cost while eso lets you permanently unlock content or optionally pay monthly for all-access like eve online, but it provides active subscribers with far more value per month, due to giving them currency they can then spend on said permanent content unlocks. The equivalent would be eve letting you increase alpha skillpoint limits permanently or unlocking the ability to equip modules and fly ships otherwise unable to alpha clones.

Furthermore… most people had a terrible time… we’re still trying to recover barely. Covid, the war going on, housing and food prices and electricity spike yearly and most families struggle more rather then less. For a bunch of people gaming is helps them cope and it doesn’t seem right to advertise true freedom when people get locked out or feel left behind simply not being able to afford a ‘premium’ status.
Omega skilling faster, maybe getting early access to some things, getting premium skins or colorable tracer rounds or ship engine colors and such, getting some plex every month, maybe slightly better insurance if you really must affect gameplay or prime clones if you die but most importantly make it fun to omega and the thing people want to do to support you as a developer.
Don’t make it so people feel like they have no other way to play the game at a peak or optimum level and feel locked out of activities and that makes them -have- to pay.

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4242

You aren’t seriously comparing EVE to FF14?

FF14 has to be one of the most boring games out there, other than dungeons and looking pretty, nothing to do. There isn’t even PvP. Damage parsing addons are forbidden as is saying something naughty incase you make a snowflake cry, a safespace for snowflake crybabies.

4243

Well this is it then. I will have to step back from eve. £15.99 a month is simply unreasonable. With the current cost of living and such I simply can not justify spending this a month. This was my freedom from modern day reality. Thanks

There will Hardly be new player coming for that amount when other online MMO such as WOW and Lost Ark and a lot cheaper, even world of warships and tanks.

The EVE player gets extra what exactly? - there has been no new game changing updates. no “oh since we are putting the price up here is extra skins and such” (fortnight is £7.99 and you get an insane amount of in game loot) - Im not comparing to EVE just an example that there needs to be something to make us want to pay

Rant over - I will not be buy Omega - PEOPLE OF EVE, ITS BEEN LOVELY FLYIG WITH YOU…now time to find another game.

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4244

Don’t forget to give away your stuff before you leave, someone might put it to good use. :wink: :stuck_out_tongue: :popcorn:

4245

what are you after?

4246

Personally nothing, maybe find some rookies and give them stuff or whatever. Just don’t let it go rot in some hangar is what am saying. :slight_smile:

4247

I didn’t say a thing about the quality of the game and prefer not to talk about it as what someone does or doesn’t prefer to play and how much fun something is greatly differs from person to person and I’m not someone to judge another person for enjoying whatever it is they do.

From a purely financial standpoint, I find eve harder to swallow than ff because I can play for a month if I want to catch up on patch content the size of basically mini expansion for about 8-9’ish pounds.
Here for comparison:
30 days £8.99 / 12.99 €
90 days £8.39 / 11.99 €
180 days £7.69 / 10.99 €

Now compare that to wanting to play eve for a single month here and there or a couple months at a time… again I’m not talking about what’s the ‘better’ game.
I’m saying there is drastic difference seeing a popular mmo at the moment keep a low and to me fair pricing structure that doesnt punish people who dont play several months at a time vs eve which has always seemed a bit more gated despite being an extremely fun experience and then you’re confronted with almost double the price on top.

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Weekly period average is down to 17k (last week), 16k this week.

The lowest it has ever been since 2006.

Game keeps dropping more and more players every week.

Nerfing everything, no new content for years, more and more pay2win store packages, 33% price increase…

“wait for fanfest”
→ Here, have some new nebula texture… yikes.

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4249

now back to my WoW Rogue.

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4250

:person_shrugging: More space for me and my EVE friends to make endless ISK. Should we be worried?

4251

One everyone has left, you will be the richest kangeroo in the universe.

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4252

Structures are damn good content. They might be less expensive then most ships you bring to clap them, or some of the ships that show up to defend them, but once the structure’s gone, there will be alot less non-friendly players in that area.

Rorqual play is only good when you can go to sleep with your Rorqual crabbing. With neuts around that’d be difficult, so remove them and you can have your rorqual crab again, and better afk ishtar-ing experience, too.

Caps are there to be scary only (as in psychological warfare), the 50 Legions lagging out a defense fleet means I don’t get challenged while taking down that non-blue player generating citadel, too. If I was to face opposition, I’d likely lose a legion or two or maybe even all of them, who knows, and each of the Legions is almost as expensive as the structure, so that was a “poor fight”. Nah, just lag them out and then clap the structure while watching netflix.
The reason I wrote Legion over e.g. ferox is that the ferox would need to hit F1 again once the guns went into reload, but a Legion can fire for an age with it’s lasers.

No blops fun? Man, nothing cleans space out more efficiently then blopsing on everything that undocks within blops range of your stage. You need to teach those neutrals that when one of your toons appears in local, it’s time for them to dock up and log off.

On the longer run, that will cause them to run back to empire space, and I can have a better experience watching netflix while my alts are all afk ishtar-ing.

Nah, manufacturing miners make income based on the prices of minerals they process. Say they can sell a T2 armor hardener for XX% more isk then the price of the materials required to build it (or rather XX% higher then 0.1% of the price to build 1000 hardeners), then the miners make more isk when the materials get expensive and less isk when they get cheaper, as the competition will force the miner to lower his prices.

The introduction of in-space compression, especially for moon ore, has caused the material prices to collapse, fueled by a massive ehp buff on barges which made them less vulnerable to “casual gankers” (opposed to 50+ account input replicating alpha abusers), which means those industry miners can’t plex their accounts any more with some module production. This is good, because they’re miners and the game would be much better off w/o them.

If the absence of miners causes the “casual gankers” to stop playing because they can’t find any content any more, that’s just fine, too. Those lowsec fw nerds would have gone for my afk ishtar after they got bored of ganking Retrievers otherwise.

It was meant to be.

4253

Price went the wrong direction. If it would have went down, i would have send more money in total to CCP than before by subbing more accounts. Now that it went up, i will not renew anything and instead invest in another game.

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4254

Smh, legit just came back with a ton of enthusiasm to get back in only to see this… Back to Star Citizen the unfinished utopia.

4255

Good job Evolving yourselves out of business

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4256

wow, I haven’t played in a long time and was getting the itch to start playing again until I saw the $20 sub…that’s crazy I’ll check back in a few months to see if you guys decided to lower it yet. In 2022 there really should be NO sub or $5 max. The most successful games out there are free and make money purely on cosmetics. Real free to play brings in a much larger player base, even if they never spend a penny they bring value to the game by making the game active. It’s a joke to call this free to play when free players have half the tank+dps as sub players. Make your money on cosmetics or charge a sub for convenience features that don’t affect pvp (like an ingame zkillbaord). Or setup some interesting pvp tourneys that can be streamed to bring in new players.

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4257

Were do you get your reasoning from?

Most consumers know EVE is a free to play game with a premium that makes you better in game CCP doesn’t really hide that fact lol.

4258

Many FTP games don’t restrict gear, but you can buy it alot quicker with cash, making them FTP P2W.

Why spend 10 hours in game to earn a ship/equipment, when you can pay for it instead, by working for 1 hour IRL ? This is why F2P P2W games suck.

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4259

Except, that is the majority of players in this game. Always has been.
Carebears have been cry the same tears since 2003, yet here we still are.

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When you refer to carebears are you talking about pink carebears, or the batshit crazy evil carebear , normally found in mining belts across EVE that shuns competitive behavior and believes that PVP’ers are socio-paths needing professional help ?

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