I remember being a little kid and literally feeling like video games were real alternate realities. Phantasy Star Online was advertised as a whole new world to interact with people from around the world. When I played it on dreamcast as a kid online it felt limitless and magical and amazing. Same for the game Command & Conquer Tiberian Sun. The game had so much value. Even unreal Tournament. These days I see those games as what they are. Simple programs filled with flaws. Dead communities. There is no limitless mystery and magic. Iāve even made my own edits to the games run my own private servers. Hacked the games to play as I wanted. Now they mean nothing.
In relation I see the same thing with EVE Online. I wonder how many people actually see it as what I once saw video games as. For some reason Iāve always seen through EVE Online as a grinding spreadsheet. A waste of my time and energy.
I just came across this person playing eve and you can see how excited and happy the game makes them:
Itās interesting to me. They must see the game as I used to see games when I was 12.
People having fun and enjoying their gameplay āthink video games are realā now? People who find excitement in what they enjoy are somehow at the same level as a 12 year old?
Hobby: an activity or interest pursued for pleasure or relaxation and not as a main occupation.
Of course there will always be people who take things too seriously, but that is true for any hobby, whether watching sports ball or playing video games.
well on the point of op topic
yes most games are quite vapid when you get down to the nuts and bolts
thats why games like wow used to be so popular because there was a lot of grinding and exploring in the world and in your own class
it took time to perfect a playstyle and get a good customised build
now they remove all the aspects of the stuff that made it too complicated and they are left with something entirely vapid and unengaging
but developers are limited in both manpower and vision
and lack the ability to create meaningful ai
games like skyrim try to counter this with radiant quests but they are also just a vapid thing that offers no real storyline or meaningful experience
so yep games are great until you scratch beneath the surface enough to see whats really going on a realise youve experienced all there is to experience and you wont get any more enjoyment from it
however pvp games tend to have more longevity because you are competing against other players and so it doesnt matter if the game is vapid and meaningless at its core so long as you can always be challenged in skill and strategy by real players
and you get endorphin rush when you teabag the corpse of your enemies
I have no other choice but to troll. Iād have to play EVE on a new account since I forgot my old ones and they were low level anyway. Iām not about to do those redundant pve low level missions or read my first book or harvest my first asteroid in this old ass game knowing damn well ill get bored within seconds once i start having flashbacks of when I did it before. Not like it has any value or fun in those tasks.
I mean it is completely up to you how you spend your free time. I gladly waste some of it with games I consider fun playing. Wasting time is nothing negative.
As for ārealā, I mean there are multiple levels to this. It obviously has a real impact on emotions, thoughts, relationships in and outside the game etc. But it is quite important that people clearly learn to separate a game from reality.
If you have time to waste, its your choice how to waste it. Its wasted anyway.
If you waste time and feel bad about it, then stop playing and do āsomething productiveā.
Actually even playing a game can be something productive, but you have to choose a way that will profit you in some way. Maybe even profit your personality.
Actually, actually, even when doing something productive, creating something, thinking about something, you can play with something, try new possibilities, and effects are sometimes a lot better than just repeating what you learned from someone else.
Get out before youāre being shoved out by the staff.
Youāve used a video of what seems to be a pretty awesome fight, a streamer in a 1vs2 situation, who against the odds won and you want to take a stab at the player for having fun and success with EVE Online. I donāt think Iāve ever seen anyone being so petty and bitter over a game they havenāt even played. You are the archetype of troll:
Why do you derail and spam threads with your personal attacks? is this a every day thing for you? Are you mad I donāt like EVE? Is that your problem? lolā¦
EVEonline does not have ālevelā-based progression as most other MMO(RPG)s have, itās āSkillā-based in more ways than one.
Video games are not ārealā. Sure they can be used to have fun, socialize, alleviate boredom and much more.
EVEonline is what you make it out to be. If you only focus on the negative all you will ever see is the ānegativeā. With EVE being a sandbox game, you have all options available to you (within game mechanics of course) and only your imagination sets your limit of what you can do in this virtual universe.
These forums are not the best place to talk thoughtfully about EVE.
Neither are the alternatives, which is sad.
Anyhow, games are about learning.
Learning is fun.
Letās use tic-tac-toe as an example, once you learn the algorithm then the fun diminishes.
So we give up seeing tic-tac-toe the same way, its horizons have shrunk.
Same for all games.
Not just the games that are designed to be games, but also all the other games that people play.
Thatās the briefest explanation of why games lose their shine.
So why do people hang on when the magic has gone? As we can see by these forums, itās because people are still hooked on that feeling, they want it back, badly.
Just like you do.
But it wonāt ever happen again.
Unless you change how you think about games.
Thatās what I learned about games.
Reporting for subtly attempting to insult the playerbase.
Youāre not half as clever as you think you are, underlined further by the fact that you know nothing about EVE and delve in ignorance. Your childish behaviour is noted.
