Does eve have an elitism problem?

You see, flying with Drac made me realize I was bad at Eve.

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You are very good at Eve, you were doing exploration and had an excellent niche until it got removed by game changes, like my niche which was gun mining from belt ratting, the reprocess nerf did that in for me.

But that does make me think at the min/max elite attitude because I was belt ratting and at one point I perfected it in a drake making it difficult to for hunters to catch me and I said that I was making 5m per tick at that point and I had min/max type players tell me I was bad because they got 20m ticks in anomalies in sov nullsec. But I was having fun avoiding hunters all the time while still making this ISK.

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Sometimes I came “home” empty handed, across a dozen wormholes and harrowing nullsec jumps. But that was the fun. Some days I made hundreds of millions of ISK in minutes, others I got nothing for hours of effort.
But it was all in the FIND. That’s what it was all about. Then exploration was turned into this min-max canned-result thing for the same kids who were raised on “structure” and Ritalin to obsess over. The heart and soul went out of it all along with the enjoyment.
Of all things, the min-max mindset probably did the most damage to the game. From the “ISK uber alles” to “Killboard uber alles”, they were not fun people to play with. Oh well.
CODE. was fun to play with until their ISK started to suffer. They became that which they claimed to hate. Then so did most of the goons in the end. They didn’t live up to their own memes.
Eve’s banner ad looks like every other free “browser game” now. Not very elite, if we consider it.

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I’m around F9SX-1 . Completely dead in the US timezone and very active in EU timezone. I don’t log on very often as I play alone. I have many characters dotted around cloaked up in the area so i get to do 8/10s 10/10s. It’s a great area to live in if you know what you’re doing and are able to stay safe.

Look forward to seeing you around.

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I didn’t met any smartbomb camps in Stain recently nor during my previous visits to Stain. And yeah, that UF-KKH system if frequently camped as entire Eastern Stain Constellations - the most unpleasant Stain systems to be in. There aren’t so many smartbomb camps ovearall over null-sec systems nowadays.

In a post, somebody argued that hi-sec is much more protected than null-sec and has very good rewards, nearly as good as null-sec systems have. So, I decided to make a big null-sec nomadic trip like few weeks ago again. I began a counterclockwork nomadic adventure from Curse across Great Wildlands systems towards Cache and further. At the beginning, in the second GW system of VXO-OM, I walk into a big gate camp of Bright Side of Death. Oh nice, what else, I was in the middle of their blob of like 70 ships. They had everything there, - T1, T2 frigates, T2 and T3 destroyers and some Cruisers - they had everything, even ability to catch 1.8s align time ships. BTW, that alliance is the most PVP skillfull in Winter Coalition, like PL was/is in PanFam. Well, cloak + MWD trick let me fly away. Maybe null-sec really become dangerous again…

I jumped through a countless number of systems with any sign of real danger after that. Like, with a right ship you can be very safe in hostile null-sec and with an alt intel you can do it in a Cruiser or above class ship similarly. The reawards varied from Region to Region, based on the amount of Heaven/Sanctum signatures, green mining belts, good combat signatures and data/relic signatures. The were Regions without a single data/relic signature, but with a bounch of lvl1-2 combat signatures and vice versa. Overall, if your are lucky, you can gain much-mych more assets in null-sec than in hi-sec during the same amount of time, otherwise - the differency in rewards is not so sufficient.

I reached Tribute by passing Geminate, Vale, many gate camps, hundreds of systems. I have no time to check everything, every gate. I jumped gate to gate across Tribute, which is probably the only region after Delve, where you should not do this. I knew about Tribute smartbomb campers of Militaris Industries Corp, but didn’t spent time to check that in local. So, they smartbombed my travel fit Stiletto and my pod for over 300M ISK in total (not abig loss). Therefore, that NC. corp have a different color status since.

This is an example that some type of ships (like travel ones) are very safe in null-sec, but they aren’t absolute immune. This makes some sense and a balanced mechanic - you can use travel Interceptros, but beware of smartbombs or you can use CovOps ships by avoiding most smartbombcams, but beware of bubbles. Anyway, the more intel and bookmarks is made - the safest your trips can be. In a friendly SOV space, where a lot of players around are “blue”, the safety is much higher than in any hi-sec system with a lot of neutrals around you.

During a long trip around galaxy, only very few constellations are frequently smartbombed: Tribute LLAP-1 and 52-JKU, Catch EM-L3K (F2R2-Q), Placid Amevync (especially system Alsavoinin) and Delve bosons.

Here is my journey statistic during the last two months, since Activity Tracker was implemented. I performed over 13800 jumps through far and hostile null-sec gates (based on the overall statistic). I passed like 7 big blob camps, 3 smartbomb camps, like dozens of simple buble camps and hundreds of camps without bubles (with simple tacklers). My ship was destroyed only two times just because I was lazy to check things and/or played a dangerous game.

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Ah, one of the most isolated system in Stain. You have to pass a long chain of pipeline systems to get there from any direction. You choosed a strange system to live around btw. I thought you based in similar constellations like 5VN-B7, H26A-B or VH1-NS, V-H3V0.

The interesting fact about Stain is if you scanned a good Combat Signature and you share it in Local (guys, look, here it is!), everybody reacts like “pffff, no, no. no… heh, lol”. But passing back across the same systems in 30 mins after that - like no combat signatures around anymore, they are mowed down very fast… hehehe. Without decent intel it’s hard to do anything in Stain.

I don’t want to point at anybody, but surprisingly, I met many active forum members in Stain.

There’s elitism issues in every game, not just in Eve. The ones who think are better than everyone else, even when they are wrong will eventually pay for their arrogance, one way or another. They’re easy to spot, so avoid them like the plague!

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Hmph. Elitists we. So you say. Such prole dribble. Do you shoo the flies away from your face when you eat or is that how you get your protein?

Anything for sale? It can be long finding a wormhole.

I would be happy to sell you stuff.

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Hey guys, I still got stuff out there I’ll be happy to give away.

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You are leaving?
In such case I would be glad to receive all livestock of all kinds.

And some industrial ships. Thank you. :kissing_heart:

Feel free to contract me whatever you won’t need in the future. Don’t forget to keep enough for yourself for the time when you will return even if years from now so you can start over. o/

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Send me some happy thoughts and wish me well as I do for you.

Elitism and masculine toxicity are huge problems in EVE, mainly centered in Null Sec.

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Q : Does eve have an elitism problem?
A : You can’t have such a problem in a DEAD game.

You don’t know my mother-in-law.

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Well I have for the most part left the game only returning for events and to check on “muh stuff”. What I meant was if Aaron wanted the stuff I have out in Stain.
I want to come back but RL has a death grip on my bawls.

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I would argue that every single game ever has an elitism problem. Your own fun is the only thing that matters. You can be selfish in regards to how much fun you’re having in a game in your spare time.

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Most Ive seen in nul I hear is from goons, but more than likely others may be bad as well.
But this is mostly about the high sec mission runners believe it or not.