ECM is dead. Sell now

The most important thing to remember is that they’re coupling these changes (so they say at least) with tweaks to tank and increased reliability.

There isn’t an ECM pilot out there that won’t rejoice at the news that their jams are going to be even slightly more predictable.

If they do that, ECM as a mechanic will be fine. Solo players are still getting ■■■■■■, and I’m still not 100% sure what to make of fighters, but other than that, it’s not a bad change.

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At least now there is a reason to tank that things. And a shieldtank-Widow will be nice. An armor tanked one is just an oddity.

It amazes me how much garbage one tiny little change to the vast range of possibilities in Eve gets some people bleating. “OMG you changed something I’ve been doing for years ! Eve will DIE ! News at 11 !!!11!!”. Do you think warfare doesn’t change in the real world ? That weapons and counters never evolve ? Perhaps Eve spaceships should shoot bows and arrows at each other instead ??

So your old strategy doesn’t work ? Find a new one - evolve your own gameplay to go along with Eve’s evolution, rather than trying to nail it down to your personal comfort-zone to the detriment of everyone else.

No dummy but this change is directly killing all solo-pvp forever. The 1 vs 1 you didn’t want because you cannot win this fight will now be the end of you every time.

Why does players always do this. CCP makes a change and people run screaming for the hills, doomsday,apocalyps sell while you can, my play style is dead. And then it just takes a few weeks and nothing bad happends, people adjust and all is well.

Can’t we just skip the doom for once?, and actually see what will happen before the screaming begins. If it is as bad as you predict, then scream…

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This is spot on and I say that with two perfect ECM characters. I read the changes slept on it and am perfectly fine with it as long as they adjust the tank and make ECM jams more predictable.

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Lol, no it will absolutely not. ECM was just horrible for solo PvP as it could completely shut you down and you don’t really have the luxary of fitting against it when solo.

Also in your example, the other guy in that 1v1 now gets a kill and for him a stupid tactic that would have let you escape is not going to happen. Solo PvP is fixed for him!

ECM is still viable but not the overpowered stupid shutdown mechanic it was. I think CCP solved this in a rather interesting and beautiful way.

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do you realize how idiotic this sentence is? apart from all those ecm discussion.

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Can I ahve your stuff :slight_smile:

You cant jam your target, and obviously you arent jamming those youre not targetting…

just think about it for a minute or read what @Ramona_McCandless wrote.

Take a minute or two to think about the context and the rest of the statement and you’ll see that what they wrote is actually right.
You are just taking a word to mean one very specific thing without remembering that it doesn’t have to mean exactly that.

That sentence I quote is pure nonsense. It’s like “ship that TDs me is not doing that at all…”

Ecm will be dead for solo. Nothing stopping you from using a falcon 70km off. Business as usual and the sky is of course falling.

How you equate a certain ship bonus and many modules being made pretty much useless as the sky falling I have no idea.

But if you cant see how ECM as now been made impractically useless I cant help you.

The CSM can explain to you how this creates 1 v 1 fights, apparently.

Why don’t you justify your original position? The only ships to really suffer right now are navy griffin and regular griffin. This is before you include things like RR application on jamming ships. Or in your myopic universe this is not allowed? Not all ships should be flown solo even if they can fit guns (looking at you logi frigates)

Justify the position that ECM is being changed to jam nothing?

What part of that are you having difficulty with?

The part where jamming all other possible locks = jamming nothing. Aka forcing all attention on the jammer. How much EHP do Jamgu have again?

It is really stupid to not provide a tank boost to ECM ships right with the ECM nerf. Or I am missing something and the changes to tank will be delivered together with ECM nerf?

They need a boost of tank, they will be taunters now. Break logi lock, focus fire on itselves etc. Solo is dead, GNI needs to be redesign.

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