Encounter Surveillance System Update

How much will the net bounty be?


Current nullsec bounty is actually 95% of the face value. ESS adds the missing 5%p by default (takes 15%p and returns 20%p), and additional payout stacks up to 5%p. It also gives navy LPs of its respective faction.
There are two types of ratters: one really hates ESS and prefer more “stable income”, and the other installs ESS right next to capital rats which makes nearly impossible to steal.

Nullsec bounties are expected to be nerfed since the introduction of DBS, so forcing ESS and disabling manual distribution feel like double nerf for ratters. However, ESS should be juicy enough for the aggressors, too. Hope devs set a balanced bounty pooling rate.

I’m sure some (maybe all) on the CSM like the idea. Hey, some people like black out.

It’s not really a big deal, it’s just kind of sad to think that the best CCP can do is rehash a vastly unpopular item (the ESS is not beloved by most ratters I know) instead of doing other things that might be more well accepted.

Most people don’t pay attention to EVE changes till they happen. I’m betting that when this goes live there is gonna be some…commotion lol.

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remembers nullsec becoming dead and roamers complaining

idk, hard to imagine CCP doing anything more to force local residents to fight not_local pvpers.

Any old player is ought to have 0 hopes that CCP will listen for anyone than themselves and eventually some spastic twitcher who creates less attention than any Big fight in null.

Oh boy, let´s just wait for that one.

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As somoene who can’t really afford to pay for Eve, Plexing is my only option to be competitive and have fun with my friends in bigger ships, this is paid for by ratting. Now you are removing that, Worst decision ever. CCP is run by little people who want to have 1v1’s and 2v2’s. Everything shows this in the way they are chanign the design of the game.

My definition of a “Good Fight” isn’t getting ganked by 4 people in a PvE fit ship. It’s having 2000 vs 2000 fleet fights.

But since i won’t be able to plex my account anymore, thanks CCP, i won’t be playing anymore.

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Been done. I refer you to Brisc’s posts on the DBS thread. CCP don’t want to hear that they might be wrong. It’s been a consistent refrain since this started.

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@CCP_Dopamine What about solo NS roamers & Ninja ratters? I like to go out there in my loki and rat every now and then while scanning to try to get escalations. I think 3 hours is too long. Should be reduced to 1 hour to support solo players.

If you no longer want us to play, just let us know, that object does not give skills points to something, so it does not benefit at all like the other existing ones, and every 3 hours? It is an exaggeration, so they break with the 20 minute period of tickets that should also break them in the entire universe, and although the speed increase modules do not work inside, the thief player will start the cycle earlier and enter with force inside, to Leaving the player no longer worries because they have already stolen, unless the bubble they put cancels the speed from the moment they enter.

So in other words cloak camp the system with a a very fast ship with implants and an oversized after burner, let others rat it up in system, sneak onto the ESS, and payday for you for almost no work. My urge to pirate again is rising.

You are correct. Time for all the grandpas to go to WH space. Cause CCP doesn’t care about WH space. You won’t have to worry about any CCP in there. This is the true NS.

The SSP deliberately waited out the moment when online because of this monstrous “update” would not go down immediately.

  1. Now there is a war with the goons and no one in the middle of it will leave.
  2. Unexpectedly “in time” the sale of omega started for a long time.

There are no bounties in J-Space dude & pochven is their baby. Not gonna happen. Why don’t you try WH space…you might actually like it better than NS.

Although the game is free of everything, the attitude of stealing even in a game is encouraged more than playing as a team and being productive like the industrialists who promote their excel and formulas, in addition to the players who pay their omega with PLEX who They buy it is plex that players already invested their money to buy them from the company, do not make life more difficult for our flight friends and have to leave these barriers instead of promoting a game more and enriching it with beautiful content, if you do. They are looking to increase their profits in a lucrative way, they can make discounts on skins that many are willing to buy and have more and more skins, clothes for the characters, even skins for the structures so much that they change their images inside or out, skins , It would greatly increase another source of income and at a lower cost in plex, it would be more consumption of plex, more consumption of ISK more currency moving in the market, a story in basic economics says: it is more p It is possible to get rich having “15 food businesses than a jewelry store”, few buy a gold object, however all people eat us daily. They are just more income strategies and not the nerf that is killing the community and harming even those who invest money in plex

@CCP_Dopamine If ESS itself is going away as a deployable, will the devs take some time to remove https://www.eveonline.com/article/ppaidi/exploit-notification-use-of-ess-in-seeker-investigation-sites
from known exploits after it goes on live?

So you’ve now nerfed null so badly we all might as well go live in HS.

Sure its right that a little more danger is coming to null because that’s how it should be but for that danger was more resources more riches but with the mineral and now ratting changes you taken the element away. Theres literally zero point living in null.

And also 3 hours before bounty payouts wtf is that joke. Most people therefore will get zero payouts.

Also you haven’t mentioned the overall percentage of bounty your taking. That be good to know. This will be important because this won’t generate the content you think if the payouts isn’t really worth worrying about. People will just let other steal it otherwise.

Also these changes and the completely contradict the others. Youre making people move around but then here people need to be together in order to defend the bounties. Eh… and then you’re expecting them to rat together for 3 hours! Have you actually really thought about this?

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Why don’t they deal with balancing the MER by introducing new isk sinks rather than nerfing faucets? Feels bad to be nerfed, particularly as people have invested years of sub payments into super/carrier/machariel ratting accounts etc.

If there were more items akin to the quantum cores which you purchased from NPC market orders, but were entirely consumed in the process of building something (unlike cores which are returned on citadel destruction), the economy could comfortably be balanced. This is what Blizz has done to control inflation, they would introduce new mounts for ever-increasing costs. CCP could periodically introduce new skins which could only be purchased with ISK or, probably most controversial, a new ISK only ship line.

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wow… such a bad change. Thanks CCP. Thanks for ruining the last game i gave a ■■■■ about.

And again a small group of botters are trying to control the narrative as it threatens their RMT ventures.

Thanks CCP, this is an interesting change and perhaps a step into the right direction! The end goal must be to end the current mindless afk grinding for instant ISK rewards in perfect safety.

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All of you guys saying that ratting is safe and afk, you are either highsec noobs or not even real players at all. This change is TRASH.

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I mean, why would CONCORD be paying bounties for players policing their own space in the first place? For all they know, you could be forging those reports of how many pirates you kill and putting the ESS in system is their way to keep an accurate account.

nothing CCP is doing opens up anything for smaller groups.

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