Encounter Surveillance System Update

Good thing game is run by CCP not you, otherwise it would be dead years ago

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I hate this change, formost because it makes it now a mandatory ess. You know there are player that play 1 hour here and 1 hour there, they will most likely lose all the isk that ccp takes due to the damm ess.
which brings me to my first question.
HOW much is the ESS gonna take?
is it more or the same as the current one?

why was the move made into a steal action regardless if you or a passing red/neut to take the isk?
isn’t eve about working togheter to make stuff happen but yet the share option was removed because ccp wants more danger in the sense of moving the tokes to high sec.
And once its there ow look you still have to pay the market fee to sell them so its not even paying you the amount that you ratted for.

i feel this is gonna end just like the blackout, pvpers happy at first for more targets and some easier isk potential only to find that the amount of people ratting has been grately reduced, and then the pvpers will be mad again due to no targets/isk in the ess’s.

and just to hammer home a point i made in the dynamic bounty system post.
WHAT do you want from us CCP want us to move to keep 100% bounties or do you want us to stay so we can have high ADM’s

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Indications at this time are 50%.

But . . . will Pochven have the ESS, too?

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Im not sure what CCP wants from us. But i thin CCPs big plan is made up by this:

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Doubtful.

I think pochven and J space should have ESS too just because all 0.0 security

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Sounds really interesting guys!

Will need a bit more dedication to rat, but nothing we cannot adapt . Just need to wait if CCP won’t screw on any details.

Btw, chats are working now and people are still exploding, somehow.

biggest ■■■■■■■■ this year you thought off.

I will not participated in this. I will not work for “pvp”-players

on top: I will stop doing any pvp, which was funded until now by farming in null sec.

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>he says while playing a 16+ year old game

lmao, okay kid

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Fillaments are far from rare. e usually see 3 or 4 a day within a jump or two

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This update from someone who just wants to rat is another thing I have to overcome and adapt to. From the ratter point of view this is all stick and little or no carrot. Especially combined with the DBS.

From the PVPer side this is a huge carrot with a nice little ISK payout.

It is what it is. CCP has made it clear, you want to make ISK in this game you’ll have to break your back.

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It’s what a lot of us did in 2011, but it wasn’t missions, it was incursions. And NOW there are other things to do like burners and the Abyss.

CCP should have learned by now that this kind of thing just don’t work like they think, even though time after time they try something to make people fight. They seem to forget it’s a game and no one does anything they don’t really want to in a game.

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No you don’t, you just pick one of the other isk/wealth generating activities. I’ve already moved my ratting alt into an npc corp and sent her to empire to run incursions (get to dust off my Vindi), and I’m training that toon for a Gila and a Stormbringer for abyss stuff.

What no one really understands is that people don’t rat in null because its good isk, you can make better running Burners in empire. It was CONVENIENT. Easy access isk. The ease of harvesting that isk made the lower value easier. You can make much better in a C6 farm hole. So apparently CCP thinks you can kill the convince and people will still do it the same way. But they won’t.

A much better move would have been to remove the bounties from Anoamly NPC Dread spawns, make them more frequent, and make them escalate to Titan spawns (also bountyless) if players bring super carriers. That would slow down the isk faucet while still letting Sub cap ratters make some isk (the real super facuet is from caps and supers ratting)

It’s like Blackout, you try to tell people what’s coming, but they can’t see it till it gets here. When it does, the same people that couldn’t understand the warnings are all like “NO ONE COULD HAVE ANTICIPATED THIS” lol.

Yea, we can.

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I like it in theory, sucks that no MWD allowed since afterburners are garbage in null for most normal PVP uses likely causing the need for a more specialized ship if you want to steal.

Not sure why the bears are complaining, these will be real easy to defend.

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Do you think CCP even thought about that area of space?

Of course not. I was being rheotorical.

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does ccp have meeting and they how can we screw up the game today? ccp you have taken away the fun in mining and now ratting. WTF! stop screwing with the game and just add new stuff! no reason to resub anymore.

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