EVE Is Dangerous. Yeah Right

Had to google because in real life I’m sort of a wheelbarrow and shovel kind of guy but a dogmatist as you labeled me (I get it) I mean it makes sense to have a safe zone for a few reasons like maybe for new players to learn the game, maybe lore fluff reasons. A neutral place for the selling of goods. But if any and all meaningful PVP should be banished from highsec, then the dogmatist in me feels that any PVE worth doing should also be banished from highsec. No more incursions, escalations, anything higher than a level 3 mission…

I respect your opinions and even get where you’re going on some things but I have mine too. Enjoying this thread tbh there’s a lot of different takes. If you asked ten randos what they think highsec should be you would get all kinds of odd answers for sure.

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So no arguments and now going to ad hominem…
I see, you are just small evil internet troll who tries to show how smart she is , but , fail… faill big time.

Things do change. But why this? Why now?

Because you want it to isn’t compelling. And your hope that it will bring more players is discredited by evidence to the contrary.

You understand what a quote is right? Cause you certainly don’t know what ad hominem is…

Nope, you do not understand how small and pitty are you in your desperate attempts to achieve something …

Well i got to give it to you. At least you admit it.

Quote

noun

a quotation from a text or speech.

“a quote from Wordsworth”

a quotation giving the estimated cost for a particular job or service.

“quotes from different insurance companies”

Ad hominem

adverb & adjective

(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.

“an ad hominem response”

relating to or associated with a particular person.

“the office was created ad hominem for Fenton”

You’re trying something out on this forum and actually just typing empty phrases, why so much need for attracting attention? Mom did not love you ???

@Daichi_Yamato and @zen-vexor01_LSG, you guys are just being silly now.

Says the guy who likes his own posts…

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?
No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be
completely avoided. The safest systems are the ‘rookie systems’ where new
players start their journey in EVE. In high-sec systems, you are less likely
to be attacked since CONCORD will exact retribution on pilots who attack
another pilot without good reason. But, for example, if you are flying a ship
with a high value cargo, a player may attack you to destroy the ship and steal
anything from the wreck if they think that it’s worth the effort. Such attacks
are known as ‘ganking’ and if the profit they’ll make is sufficient, pilots are
willing to accept the expense of losing their ship to CONCORD and having
their security status lowered for their crimes. So it will be up to a pilot to remain
vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time

CCP Falcon.

Some of the people complaining in this thread have valid points about the fact that they don’t feel safe. Simple fact of the matter is, that you’re not suppose to feel safe in New Eden.

I can find more.

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Your “evidence” is based on -as i said before- half baked tries not meat to stay live but just beeing test baloons…

You even cannot call them “evidence” because a real try was never made…

So at the end of the day neither side has concrete evidence but what we have is a current status and leaving players(or converting their accounts into alphas at best) so the most reasonable solution would be trying a 180° turn and see how things go with it.

I don’t know about you but in my eyes the past decisions of PA/CCP show a slightly turnaround into that direction…the ship EVE is simply not a racing car so it will take its time 'til the new course is set…

SO let’s wait a couple of monts and we maybe all see clear…

You do realise that this is exactly what many of us think about your suggestions.

Your way has been tried in the past. A PvP game similar in nature to Eve opened a PvP free area, Trammel.

UO is still around but it is nowhere near the game it once was; and you want to do this to Eve…

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Last time when I answer to that “dogmatic text” I was banned from forum and my answers was removed and I assume now will be the same.
But nwm all that is just transition period, he can ban all my toons after transition when he will be banned from company and I’ll be back, I’l buy 50 new accounts :sunglasses:

(Eve is fun for me not source of income)

Why? Cause you said that’s the most reasonable approach?

Like i said before, what has also never been tried is going back to the more pvp centric game. History suggests it would be more successful than now. Your suggestion is a blind gamble or a double downing of already failing attempts.

So yeah, i challenge your position saying that there is anything reasonable about making the game safer.

The truth is you can KEEP saying ‘no one has tried making it even safer’ ad infinitum. Because that’s exactly what has been happening for half a decade now. And it has NEVER worked.

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What is this drivel?

You asked for evidence that CCP has said hisec isn’t meant to be safe. You got what you asked for.

Now ante up and provide the evidence that shows the opposite.

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So an EQUALITY between PVE and PVP is bad because?

I never read any argument WHY it would be bad just doomsday quotes of any kind…

What do you consider an equality? Becuase its probably not an equality to other people.

A fulltime pvp sandbox, as i desire it, is not compatible with any kind of safe space.

The problem here (i know that wasn’t meant for me) is that you are quoting past statements of CCP that were made years ago and have nothing to do with the current situation…

Having PVE a safe spot from PVP(in high) in the same way has PVP has a spot to shoot everywhere(as everywhere else beside high) is what i call equality…

Why would I ?
I write for my own pleasure and I write what I want. I do not have to prove anything. I just said “It will be like that in 5 years”. You can believe me or not I do not care do you believe me. But one day I’ll say “I told you” and all those who play the debating club here will either go away or hide behind new names.
You can not prove anything on the net because net is void.