I dunno about half, but… I’d expect to see it come down more, yes. Not only will all of these people loudly declaring they’ll unsubscribe again not create demand, but the available ISK supply dropping will create a downward pressure on PLEX prices—or, because PLEX always originate w/RL money, an increased scarcity of ISK will increase the price of ISK, paid in PLEX.
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it’s called allready Gank in HS, just Gang in LS and Neut Gang in NS.
This dynamic phenomena can already occur at any time and at any level of difficulty
‘Player demand’ is pretty much the worst thing to shoot for. ‘I want ice cream and cake for dinner every night’ might make the kids happy, but it won’t keep them healthy.
So let’s see, Eve numbers continue to plummet to below 2008 numbers and the people in charge seem to think if they SCREAM “PVP MORE, YOU IDIOT PAYING CUSTOMERS!!!” at us, the same old failed solution will bring different results?
Time to start looking for another MMO when this one crashes an burns while still SCREECHING “PVP!!!” and claiming success from ticket sales to Events with the few remaining real live humans.
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AFK Cloaky Camping. Observatories. Citadels not loosing their rigs if moved within the same system. iHub/TCU citadel replacements. Weapon timers for interdictor probes as per other AOE weapons.
At least war declarations got a good pass, though by that point I’d abandoned my old account and restarted on this one…
The new player experience was the focus right? Makes sense, the new players are the ones that still have that hope one day of growing up to be something instead of a crusty bitter vet.
One of my old corp’s members left for Delve and told me he made enough ISK ratting in a super in a few months his whole year was paid up in PLEX. Another returned to the game after several years break and got given 50 billion from one of his friends who’d kept playing the whole time.
Ever since the SRP blanket was there to wipe bottoms with a fresh flannel.
Good luck policing that.
As if the miners would ever unionise.
Exactly. Think of the thousands that left the game because of the shitty war dec mechanic closing down corporation after corporation who got bullied by 5 corps doing like %50 of the wars.
It does seem somewhat unfair that one group have a very easy time of making ISK whilst another has no choice but to front up the cash.
EVE is very frustrating in that the robbery of a player for 1 billion ISK is treated the same as if 1 ISK was stolen.
Maybe not that far, how about locking another player not in fleet ( or corp/alliance ) requires yellow safety. Yellow safety makes you go suspect, instantly.
Actually war declarations are much better than what they were, at least there is a clear line being crossed now.
Kill rights would be a bit more fun if the suspect flag lasted the whole 30 days for anyone who activated the right. Bounty payout needs some love too…
Its not a locust fleet if it doesn’t die out once all the food is gone.
I ■■■■ you not, one guy would always low-ball his stuff because he “just wanted to do the activity” of mining and industry. Soon enough with the 0.1 ISK’ing nobody could get a sale with decent margin because a certain segment of the population use $$$ for their account and don’t care how much ISK they sell stuff for. It screws over the idea of a ‘player driving economy’ because its effectively a subsidised manufacturing operation.
If CCP really wants to promote scarcity, the shortage needs to last months, not weeks. Even with this dynamic algorithm thingy its going to last a long time because of the massive reserves that are already stockpiled.
Ask PL about this time when someone suicided 1000 talkers onto a citadel to blow it up. Took a bit longer than 1 second though.
A cloaked neutral who can AFK/Bot with impunity. Is AFK/Botting something you think should be in Eve?
Probably fell victim to one of those scams where a kill right looks like it costs 2 million but as soon as someone looks like they might activate it, the alt with the kill right changes it to 200 million. Classic scam that aught to have a re-list tax on it too.
Do you remember the "bong’ sound from a few years back every time a target was killed? That got removed pretty much next day…
Good tip, thanks.
Maybe the industrial and covert cyno’s should be T2 modules that have to be invented off of a T1 cyno print? Just another place to sink the moon goo.
this is BS.
You can earn ISK everywhere and even with very few skills. There’s only one thing you can’t earn ISK with…with ships lose like PvP…It’s ironic the whole thing in a PvP game isn’t it?
Doesn’t make you go suspect… and gankers don’t care if locking you makes them go suspect.
To be fair shortage started at Christmas and is slowly being cranked up.
Didn’t think of this one.
And yet, at the same time, I can go 100 light-years in about half an hour. That’s what, 17,520 times the speed of light? And we complain about ‘too slow’…
I wouldn’t want to try changing my oil with the engine running.
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
You should learn your history, kiddo.
EVE has sound?
(No, seriously, nobody who gets into big fights has sound enabled. It takes more processing power than the best graphics setting.)
Now, concurrency has more than fully recovered but instead of bots we have a host of genuine new players taking their first steps in EVE
…that’s a joke, right?
You do not actually believe that…
How blind are you guys to what is actually happening.
They just wrote better bots. The only thing that really changed something for bounty payouts was the blackout, and you bailed from that. Now the myrmidon and Ishtar bots are back, and they even farm the NS data and relic sites.
No, it’s a lot of old players coming back because ‘you need to spend all your time inside away from other people’ is basically ‘Go play EVE or your granny dies’.
Just no
Player number have been the same since about mid January.
That was the end of the “bots are coming back” phase after they backed out of the blackout situation with their tails between their legs.
Nope. Definitely seen a lot of the people who’d left the game come back in the last month. Our fleet participation metrics are up, FCs who’d ‘won’ EVE have been running fleets, and on and on.
Yes, of course now with the lockdowns we have many more players.
But still… the player count from mid January to end February was very consistent.
And those are the 4000 ish bots that are active again
Really? I wish CCP did a graph for ‘average life expectancy’ of a rorqual per region.
There was a CCP presentation last year that said Eve is at its core PvE game, modelled after ideas of the weather in Iceland, just wait 15 minutes and it will change.
I care because all those sneaky scanning ships on the gates to trade hubs would become fireworks instead.
Yeah, its pretty hard sometimes to remember what it was like when everything was new. Fell for that one with a battleship one day.
I’ll amend that to “as if the miners would stay unionized”. 
These are all my new alliance allies who write a sign language and do nothing else all day but bookmark all Combat signatures and then salvage them. And they do it across systems. I’m not even sure how far they’re not bots.
I don’t like players like that at all. And yes, I am greedy…
I think you’d have a hard time demonstrating that they ever left. Look, I know CCP likes to say that they’re getting better at killing bots, but the fact is, industrial bot farms just spin up new bots as soon as one gets squished. That’s how they work in every MMO, and it’d be insane to imagine that CCP’s managed to overcome years of spoofing/VPN development in the eternal cybersecurity arms race, better than anyone else on the globe has.
So no. They never went anywhere. There was no ‘the bots are coming back’ phase. The bots never left.
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Have you ever witnessed how fast 100 bombers can f up a Rorqs?
They just have to kick the god damm invuln thing, or at least make it MUCH shorter
You should also brush up on current events:
Have you ever seen how fast 100 bored supercapital pilots can drop on bombers?
Because I see it every goddamned night.
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