Vanguard is/was an oppertunity to do walking in stations the right way. Ie. its an optional feature, separate patch you download. And the theme is simply being able to leave the pod.
I can already imagine how it gets marketed. The teaser website is a pod with an open door that’s empty.
The possibilities seem endless once you start asking “What if players could leave the pod”.
Should the Vanguard threads be merged
I get the impression you’r not sure of what your excuse is against it: first it was two separate characters needed. Now it’s not original concept. Seriously?
Nobody insists Vanguard is new revolutionary concept and a breakthrough in FPS genre. It is a regular FPS. But what distincts it from the others is that it’s EVE FPS. And it’s needed to make New Eden whole again. Or it is game over, really.
First Strike build is pre-alpha version. Get it? Not even alpha but something totally prototype. It means that it is not the final, set in stone version. The release version might not even bear any reasamblance to it. And that’s the point of CCP inviting us to take part in shaping it.
I agree with you that you have a right to dislike that starting point shape. But why doing it so ostensibly and dismisive? It will go any way we tell CCP it should go. It will be a long process dotted with more strikes now and then.
On Thursday begins the First and then we give feedback on what we think. How can you give it honestly not knowing the whole present shape of it?
I hope you want EVE FPS too as much as others who show more enthusiasm 
Edit: I too am a little disapointed the separate character is needed but I am going to keep my cool, knowing it is not final decission. It is so for First Strike now.
I do like the initial aspect of it but I’m not sure about the implementation of it.
Just a few questions for now…
Can you play solo or do you have to be in a team?
How many players minimum / maximum does it require for a team?
Do you have to form a team first and then enter or do you automatically join a team when you enter?
I have other questions too but these will do for now…
According to Vanguard FAQ at the bottom of https://vanguard.eveonline.com you can play solo. Devs on eve discord said the team (or squad) is two or three players max
I can’t say about the rest.
On 7th December the presently beta launcher becomes the official launcher and when the First Strike starts we will see a new character slot on omega accounts for playing Vanguard.
There is no omega requirement prior the event. Only when it happens. So one could buy that 3 day weekend pass just before the event starts or even when it’s in progress and automatically can get into Vanguard public test.
No email registration is obligatory neither. It is for public Vanguard news only and getting invites for short closed NDE’d tech tests.
I must admit I’m surprised at all the interest in Vanguard. There are already soooo many FPS out there and, at least for me, I play Eve because it’s unique and doesn’t require FPS-type reactions.
I think CCP looked at steam charts and saw the most played game was an FPS and decided making an FPS was the best move they could make
But also making an FPS is not so complicated and some people like to do things that are easy Its probably not the best way to make money or become successful tho. But to each their own
One of the lead developers on Vanguard is also called Clown Car or something. I forget exactly what
Yes i am the Villain.
EVE FPS is not something new. It is in development since at least 2006. DUST514 was developed on PC originally. And first demo played by Hilmar was shown at FF’09.
Where did i complain that its not an original concept? pointing out that i already know how the gameplay loop is going to go isn’t the complaint, it was added as a point of clarification that the loop isn’t going to be enough for me to be enough of a reason for me to not stick to my stance of not playing the game
As it stands this is the design choice, this isn’t just a first strike thing this is how they intend it to be played, and as such this is a dealbreaker for me so i’m voicing the reason why i won’t be touching this so CCP are aware
Its going to be like destiny from the looks of it, so you’ll be able to try and do things solo but i’m not sure they will balance content around the solo player so you might not be able to complete certain content alone
Yeah that’s ok, maybe I’ll play it as a ganker… 
Will Eve Vanguard be playable after the event? I think the game will be a great opportunity to get people to play Eve Online. But i was just wondering
It is supposed to pop in and out now and then for short visits to show off its ongoing improvements based on our feedback from previous meetings with ous…
CCP counts on it very much it brings new capsuleers to New Eden.
CCP holding their tongue about that.
Probably want to see what we break first.
@Cypherous FYI you can play First Strike using your capsuleer name. I’ve used names of all my characters on my accounts
The First Strike “progress” (ISK cents and loot) will probably not carry on to further Strikes.
Cool but i don’t care about first strike i care about the full game
Ok, fine but fyi full game shape depends on player feedback from First Strike… and all that’ll happen between now and then
And i’m giving my feedback, not touching it if i can’t use my capsuleer name during the full game with a link to my main
Ill quickly list some thoughts about vanguard. (Was considering making a thread but didn’t do it)
Looks like CCP took a page out of abyssal deadspace skybox with this event. (Looks pretty darn cool raiding a bowhead).
Alot of stuttering on a RTX 3070 TI 8gb Vram (expected at this stage)
Wish there was a permeant minimap. (LOVED the big map showing the 3d wreckage site of the bowhead)
This raiding event really feels like a large game of hide and seek. 
Not really my style really.
Wish I got to play Mordu’s Legion I didn’t like being a pirate. 
Everyone feels so big like these warclones are almost like the space marines from Warhammer 40k. NPCs are much smaller vs the players. Perhaps this was intended.
I got on the hype train and I accept the consequences. I see a lot of potential. I hope this can be built out to where full-scale battles happen. (Battlebit Remastered for example comes to mind)
This is probably as exclusive we can get when it comes to playing the FIRST iterations of a new game.
Super excited for the next iterations of vanguard! No doubt this leaves much to be desired. Some people can’t even get the thing up and running to the main menu!
