The fact that you have to go to your birthday party in order to get presents, gifts, doesnt mean we stop calling them gifts. Gifts are defined as something given on a special occasion or given without much effort on the person receiving them. The “rewards” were not particularly hard. You just had to log in. Not hard.
Oh no, not at all. The hospitalization was an actual argument made by someone who didnt make all 16 days. Or, atleast on behalf of his friend.
But gift and reward are interchangeable. This event didnt take any effort. It was easy to get the first, first few gifts. And for those who stuck out till the end got the best reward.
If you’ve been here for longer than a year, you would know the celebration birthday last year was useless trinkets and ships that everyone has nowadays because they were handed out again and again over multiple events.
This year, it was much more generous and valuable.
Okay. You’re young. Your erratic punctuation and spelling is therefore excused. However, understand this: one doesn’t have to go to parties to receive gifts. I, my mother, and my sisters haven’t lived in the same city for over 25 years. We try to get together, but it’s not always practical (I live 8 time zones away) but we send and receive gifts just fine.
Gifts are given unconditionally. An American dictionary defined them thus: something voluntarily transferred by one person to another without compensation.
And forget the special occasion crap too. I’m just guessing here, but I’d hazard a guess you’re yet to have received the favours of a young lady. Surprise and spontaneity with gifts - no need to be expensive - can work charms here mate.
Anyway, way off topic. On topic:
This “event” was a PR disaster. No doubt about it.
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Im typing on my phone, and i didnt make any spelling mistakes.
But generally, for most people, if you dont throw a birthday party, you wont receive gifts from the people who attend it.
Sure. There was no necessary payment. You could be alpha and still receive the 16 days worth of gifts.
Theres nothing wrong with receiving spontaneous gifts, but lets not be disingenuous here. Those gifts are given as a quid pro quo, and your girlfriend, if you have one, is expecting something in return. For the rest of us that have actually had women in our lives, we can tell you, this is true. If you are truly expecting nothing in return, you would give presents to a random stranger who doesnt know you, anonymously.
By the way, its “you’ve” and not “you’re”. I usually dont point these things out, because, you know, English might not be your first language, you might be typing on a phone and therefore had your words auto-corrected or typed too fast that you didnt realize what you had written. And most of all, because its meaningless and irrelevant to the discussion at hand as to whether someone misspelled or punctuated improperly, and only serves to distract from the actual arguments being presented. But it seems fitting to point this out.
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Yes. And if the event only required you to log in for one day, in the span of 2 weeks, and you couldnt log in for a month, wow, amazing! You would still consider it a discrimination against less active players in a game that is designed not to be punishing for low activity.
But your argument doesnt make any sense. You keep repeating this “Game is designed not to be punishing for low activity” nonsense, and its not true.
Both of us agree that a person who logs in 10 hours a day and makes 100 mill an hour, would have more ISK at the end of the month than a person who logs in 1 hour a week and makes 100 mill an hour. Is the game, “punishing” the less active player? And more importantly, should it? Should a Guy who logs in 1 hour a week, be able to make the same as someone who logs in 10 hours a day doing the exact same thing?
Of course not. And you would agree with that, too.
So no, the game is not designed not to be punishing for less active players in every respect.
And if you concede to that, then your argument utterly fails.
If an icecream shop is offering free sundaes, and you dont show up to the icecream shop, you wont get your free sundae.
If your friend sends you a gift for your birthday, and the postman puts the gift in your mailbox, if you dont open your mailbox, you wont get your gift.
If CCP sends you a gift for their anniversary celebration, and you dont log in to claim it, you wont get your gift.
Starting to see a pattern here?
Wow, what an old romantic you are! No, I don’t have a girlfriend, but I met my wife in '96 and she’s pretty traditional, so girlfriends are verboten.
As to you’ve vs you’re:
“France have yet to score”
vs
“France are yet to score”
I’m pretty sure both are fine. I avoided the construction:
“…you have yet to have…” as the repetition seems clumsy to me.
Anyway, you won’t win a language contest here, so drop it. I only concentrated on your language use because I suspected you to be an employee of CCP based on your many responses to this thread, and on the tone of those.
I don’t believe you are, but I’m puzzled as to why you’re defending what has obviously turned out to be a fairly terrible public relations opportunity.
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Wow. You’ve completely missed the entire point of my argument. Are you honestly saying that you’ve never made a punctuation error in this forums before? Seriously? Don’t you think that I’d be able to find a mistake of yours, going back into your forum posts?
Also, “you’ve”(past tense) is still correct over “you’re”(present tense).
Also, you do realize that a lot of CCP employees are from Iceland. Guess what the official language of Iceland is? Hint: it’s not English.
Yes. CCP employees have the word “ISD” or “CCP” in front of their names. You just realized that, huh. Good for you.
What I’m defending, is the fact that CCP didn’t fail at public relations. It’s the difference between being fair, and unfair. CCP told everyone when the event would begin(At downtime on the 2nd), when the event would end(On the 20th of May), and sent an email on the last possible day to receive all the rewards(may 4th), specifically stating that you can get all the rewards as long as you log in every single day.
For those of us who followed the rules, we got our prize.
For those who didn’t, well, now they’re complaining about how it was unfair.
It’s not. It would be unfair, for CCP to hand out the rewards to every player that failed the event. But CCP didn’t, and therefore, they were fair. People don’t like it, because CCP didn’t rule in their favor. And I understand that. But a lot of what they said in this thread, is wrong. And I pointed it out.
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@Solonius_Rex EXACTLY what a CCP guy would say to try cover up his tracks. 
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Really disappointed that my fairly new second account missed out on the 1mil SP’s for no fault at all. Come on CCP…do the right thing!
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We are all alts of CCP. The entire server is just one person playing 20,000 accounts.
They did the right thing. Which is deny all requests for exemptions, because it would be unfair.
Your entire point is that you sometimes make mistakes?
This is unrelated to tense. The constructions ‘you are yet to’ and ‘you have yet to’ refer to an event (or events) that have not occurred so far, but that might occur in the future. They are both valid in all varieties of English. From your spelling I believe you use American English, so there’s an interesting article from Yale university here that you might want to take a look at.
And yes, I understand that English is not the official language of Iceland and that CCP employees on their official accounts will have a CCP prefix to their name. But would it be impossible for an employee of that company to have an account whose characters are free of such a prefix? An account to stealthily propagandise? Maybe I’m overly suspicious, but you have to admit it would be no effort on their part at all to use such an unmarked account to promulgate an opinion along the lines of…well, exactly what you’ve been saying really. That it’s people’s fault for not getting the message early enough, planning their life around rigid login requirements, never having any obligation in real life that kept them from the computer that day, etc.
The ethos of this game has always been: 'we are not the typical MMO - we’re for adults with corresponding baggage and commitments - plan ahead and you can go at your own pace '. Now I’m seeing the erosion of those central tenets. For example: ‘daily quests’, even to the point where the quest is literally to log in. How pathetic.
Anyway, enough from me. How about you drag yourself from this thread and allow others to voice their opinions without your background noise. In the meantime, you could attempt to learn how commas are used. That would be splendid for everyone.
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No, my entire point is that its meaningless to point out how poor someones punctuation and spelling is. Looks like your reading comprehension skills need work.
You do realize that website is merely stating the demographics of the usage of the word, and not whether its actually correct or not. And yes, they agree that the “have” syntax exists more commonly.
If you understood this, why would you comment on who you thought was a CCP employees punctuation?
Conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised.
But please, don’t put words in my mouth. I never said it was the players fault. If you got into a car accident, and couldn’t log in for a month because you were unconscious, its not your fault that you couldn’t participate in the event.
It’s not CCP’s fault either, though. And that’s the point.
If you have real life obligations that take you away from a video game, it’s not your fault. But it’s not CCP’s fault, either. And it’s not up to CCP to reimburse you, or give you anything you missed while you were gone.
I’d say it’s pathetic to know and understand that CCP is based out of Iceland, and then criticize someone you suspect to be working as a CCP staff of their punctuation problems as a first line of criticism.
But, again, no. Of course there are going to be aspects of this game where if you are more active, you are going to see more rewards. Someone who farms 10 hours a day, is going to make more ISK than someone who only farms 1 hour a week. There’s nothing wrong with that, and to suggest that this, or any aspect of game play that rewards more activity over less, is silly.
And when you consider that the ethos of “go at your own pace” has always been attributed to how you can get skillpoints at the same pace as everyone else, you are doubly wrong.
If people were simply saying “well, this sucks, I missed the event. Maybe next time CCP can make it last longer”, I wouldn’t be replying. But as long as people keep making ridiculous claims, I’m going to be responding to correct them of that.
Look, I get it. It sucks to have someone barge in and destroy the narrative you’ve been trying to build. Just come with better arguments next time. Okay?
Also, I’ll learn how to use commas when you learn how to use articles and the word “Opportunity” properly. Deal?
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You do realise that you’re flogging a dead horse here arguing with players who’re incapable of ever accepting that it was they who were wrong?
How are people “wrong” when they point out what they think is a falsely advertised and poorly executed event?
Enough people can change reality like when the whole world celebrated the start of the new millennium in 1999-2000 except for a few party-poopers who pointed out that the millennium wasn’t until next new years eve. Those party-poopers were right but people decided not to listened to them. I feel like one of those party-poopers. Everyone just decided that the 19th was the last day you could claim the last gift even tho the ad said you should be able to claim on the 20th.
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Well, that is the part that’s wrong.
You can and could’ve claimed the gift on the 20th. No one decided that the last day to claim the gift was the 19th. Up until 11 am UTC on the 20th, you were allowed to claim the gift.
What you, and a lot of other people are angry about is why you couldnt claim 2 gifts in the span of 24 hours. Well, think about it. If the event is claiming 1 gift every day, then there is always going to be a 24 hour period where you can only redeem 1 gift. The event began on downtime, and CCP told you the event began on downtime, and CCP also said it would end on the 20th.
So, downtime on the 20th is when the event would end, if you were thinking rationally and reasonably.
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You guys are serious? The event ended more than one moth ago and you are still arguing if the deadline was on the 19th or 20th?
Move on something else guys… This is an old story….
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Well, some of us like messing with the way our character looks. Your loss bro
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The taste of ■■■■ in my mouth is still fresh from when I logged in on the 20th. and got shafted by CCP. Since then I have logged in to my 127 mil sp capsuleer many times. All the possibilities and all the resources… still I just twirl my ship a few times and just log off.
This thread is fuel for my resolve to stay away from the game so I’ll keep posting here just to keep contact with the game and the community.
fly safe.
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Don’t do that. You can’t serve two masters. Liquidate, trash and otherwise dump your assets. Then biomass your character(s). That will both test and then support your resolve to stay away. But don’t keep posting here, because you will just keep coming back, including to actually play the game. Eventually.
What’s it going to be, boy? Yes? Or no?