Fixing some toxic exploits

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You quote me, but still don’t show where I do

compare what you are experiencing here in HORDE to actual rape of actual women

So you are affirming lies.

if you come to discuss is on a forum we will give you advice wont we?? That’s what its for???

WTF dude ? I told you already, I just report what I witness. What’s wrong with you ? You are over interpreting me. Just look at my first sentence :

People moved the corp bookmarks without having the right to do so.
jumb bridge bms were moved 50km from the jb. Happened to me one day on several bms, no loss incurred though
THAT is(was ?) exploit using. Or maybe a server/player bug, I don’t know.

I’m just explaining what OP is talking about. I don’t come here for an advice concerning those BMs. I don’t care about your appreciation of PH. You don’t need to rage, because nobody cares - I don’t know you and you don’t know me.
I am not OP. Just came here to give precisions because I felt like OP was losing its cold. And now you are. Funny.

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So, I’m starting to think this thread is just troll bait.

step 1) make thread with terrible ideas
step 2) call anyone who calls you out on your terrible ideas some seriously offensive epithets
step 3) laugh at people who try to “help” you

It makes me think that if the “issue” OP is trying to solve, assuming OP isn’t the person doing it in the first place on an alt, that OP and troll buddy probably deserves whatever horrible things they claim are happening to them.

Is this whole thread a lie?

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You are probaly right. I guess I should just let them die to awox and get spammed till they turn mad about it since they are completely unwilling to apply what the rest of EVE did to avoid this.

HTFU and all that I guess…

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I guess I am the one you so easily call troll buddy.

What makes you think that something terrible happened to me ?

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mind to elaborate, or your whole goal coming here is to insult me ?

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He has made a few threads like this, a few on botting
At first I thought that like me, he might
have some sort of disorder and I made as much space as possible for him to get his point across however I am now sure he has
12 year old nob disorder, and will not be reading his threads anymore.

If he actually was wanting help, well I guess hes less likely to get it now.

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My whole point was to read the thread, give feedback on it. But you wasted my time, you wasted everyone else’s time, because, whether the thread was sincere or not, you are a dick. You ruin the thread. The end. Lock it now.

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So you mean, I am strong, hard, impressive, like a dick ? I know you love me, but you don’t need to confess.
BTW though OP and I are in the same corporation, I don’t know him at all.

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Its your whole entitled tone and the way you use rape retard and mental illness to make a point,
I’m not even arguing with you but in your post you talk about people making throwaway alts and link to a killboard to demonstrate
so I demonstrated back…

regarding the whole 'PROVE IT PROVE IT’
you talk about the people who 'come here only to insult and are mentally?.. To me they look exactly like kids who are bored to death…
you then say THIS IS THE SAME LEVEL OF STUPIDITY AS PEOPLE WHO ENJOY WOMEN ONLY WHEN THEY RAPE THEM.

So, yes, I was wrong and as an adult I will admit it
You weren’t comparing this corp spam thing to the rape of actual women,
but rather the people who disagree with you, or rather offer you advice you don’t like but which is still valid,
to the rapists of actual women.

So the SUBSTANCE of my point not only stands, because your actual rhetoric, not my misreading of it, is even more hyperbolic in its intent to equate someone upsetting you in a game to the ACTUAL RAPE OF WOMEN, and to try and get sympathy from that mad equation.

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This is not my thread either but I would prefer it if it could be locked.
Once people start with the rape analogies and name calling its all a waste of time and bandwidth.

Diablo, should you ever need anything in game, hit me up,
don’t agree with internet diagnosis as a rule, but like should help like and you brother
have some serious pragmatic language issues going on and should probably stop pushing away everyone who wants to help.

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That’s good, but you are still wrong after that, as I already showed you.
I only talked about people that post in a discussion for the sole reason to insult, like mkint. NOT ANYONE ELSE. and THEN I compared those people’s mental issues with the issues of people who can’t enjoy a woman without rapping her.

Now I know, this is very complex but there is a HUGE difference between what I said and what you wanted to understand. I used the word rape but I am not talking about rape, just the rapist mental issues. AND I didn’t called anyone here - or actually anywhere - rapist, that’s just your imagination.

I definitely gladly let you help, you were doing good until you tried to interpret my sentences. I gave you likes, because I liked your cool tone. Too bad you lost it, maybe my sentences were too complex ? Well life is complex and if I have a complex opinion I can’t simplify it, else I would alienate it.

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1 Thought that was a thing already
2 That’s just a horrible idea it would mess with alphas that wanna join in on a incorp thunderdome, it would also be be removing a entire part of this game from alphas: Awoxing As much as you don’t like it Awoxing is a firm part of this game
3. No

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Oh NO, I admitted I was wrong in one very specific way that you were comparing the experiences of horde players being spammed.

I still stand by my point that comparing people who only come to insult, to people who rape women, is toxic and out of order

And by the way his post above,where he says
So, I’m starting to think this thread is just troll bait

was not only to insult. I liked it and agreed with it, I think it added more to the discussion than you
comparing people who say things you don’t like to people who rape women.

You see you only quote the line where I admit I’m wrong, and miss the context.

Rape/retard/mentally ill, all labels to insult these people. ESPECIALLY mkint adding content to the thread.

The thread about horde players wanting something or something, that they call toxic exploits, while behaving toxic.

Frankly, I am realising that some posters on these threads are on my level and some are not and that’s ok.

EDIT: this is what I said
So the SUBSTANCE of my point not only stands, because your actual rhetoric, not my misreading of it, is even more hyperbolic in its intent to equate someone upsetting you in a game to the ACTUAL RAPE OF WOMEN, and to try and get sympathy from that mad equation.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE FORUMS ARE PART OF THE GAME.

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you only quote the line where I admit I’m wrong

I only quote the line where you say something constructive.

Or not ? I can’t undock my titan on the forum, FC what do ?

was not only to insult.

It’s nice to learn from you that calling someone a dick is not an insult. I still wonder how comes “dick” is not an insult, while “retard” is. Maybe “Dick” is your first name?
dick grayson
Same goes for “stupid” BTW.

Double standards…

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whatever

others can read this drivel and make their own minds up

EDIT: I mean you can actually read back over your posts and think they even make sense?
THANK GOD FOR HORDE KEEP THESE PEOPLE IN ONE PLACE I SAY

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Yes. Good thing you realized yours did not.

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No. not going to work, They make perfect sense.
Heres a clue.
They do not consist of one line quotes out of context with questions that are irrelevant to the discussion.
This is not OUR thread, so maybe leave some room for others to comment.

My final word to you is that you use crazy over the top rhetoric about rape because someone insulted you or something, even though he only did that after you dismissed his genuine contribution to the thread.

You cant even see how rude you are. And how you use toxic labels rapist/retarded/mental etc.

If you keep replying to me directly, I will reply back, eventualy the thread will be closed, so lets just leave it for now and give others a chance.

I think you have made your point now, I still don’t really know what it is beyond people insulting you on forums being like men who rape women, but you have made it.

I finished making mine a long time ago. So Please give it a rest now??

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you can actually read back over your posts and think they even make sense

well, you can now :

You know, I can post on the forum only to provide additional information. I even said I was not sure about the exploit. Why would I make a point for something I am unsure of ? And which barely affects me ? You assume so many things about me, you don’t even read my messages.

And yes I think people who spend time on a forum to insults are retards. If you don’t have anything to bring to the topic but insults, you rather keep your opinion for yourself and save time. Or come back later with a peaceful mind and a correct tone - and something constructive to add.

You tried to be correct at first, but then you lied so much about that rapist thing that I only picked the funny lines in your comments, and discards everything else. You show an hypocritical part of yourself. I think it’s kinda funny, that you make such a fool of yourself : you try to shame me for something your imagination created, and then “I WAS WRONG BUT I AM STILL RIGHT”. No you are not, so keep your clue for yourself.

And if

[coming here to insult] is the same level of stupidity as people who enjoy women only when they rape them - just listen how many people talk about “rapping” other players.

hurts you, well it’s your problem. Don’t expect me to feel guilty for you lack of understanding.
I don’t promote rape, I don’t call anyone rapist, you saying the opposite is just hypocritical.

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no none of it hurts me- I am used to dealing with poor logic and those who cannot see what is right before there eyes.

I will spell it out:

its just that you said:
a person who comes to the forums to insult others
is the same level of stupidity
as people who enjoy women only when they rape them

so you are saying that people who ‘use forums just to insult’ (that’s what your saying), they get their enjoyment from the insults,
are as stupid
as people who enjoy women only when they rape them.

Thus you are comparing one kind of act- using forums to insult only, with another act, using sexual intercourse to rape only.

What have I got wrong about that?

I’m not hurt- I just think its pretty toxic and pathetic, comparing ‘using a forum to insult others’ with ‘using a woman for rape’.

I haven’t lied at all, once again, my posts are there to see. I made a mistake I acknowledged, I thought you were comparing the behaviour of the people corp spamming to rapists, I recognised that mistake and acknowledged it, that does not invalidate what I say later, rather it further validates it as it shows I can admit when I am wrong.

Look you made a facile comparison between something that isn’t really serious, someone insulting you on a forum, to something that is serious, the rape of a woman, and you did it for rhetorical effect.

That’s ok, its the internet, but don’t cry when someone points out its a bit OTT and distasteful, and that it makes your whole post a bit hyperbolic and buthurt sounding, even if as you maintain, you are not even here to do anything other than offer help, you don’t even know the op.

Never mind that your whole ‘rape’ diatribe was about players who only come here to insult (your words) and the guy you singled out as ‘only coming here to insult’ made one of the best posts in the thread, I mean @mkint when he pointed out this thread was probably just troll bait.

You see, this isn’t about me being hurt or upset, its about the logical discrepancies in your posts and the great big hole you keep digging yourself.

However you dress it up- you compare others to rapists because they insult you on forums (OK, to be specific because you will jump all over semantics), you compare people who only come to forums to insult, to people who only enjoy women when they rape them.

Either way this is what I said

“Oh NO, I admitted I was wrong in one very specific way that you were comparing the experiences of horde players being spammed.
I still stand by my point that comparing people who only come to insult, to people who rape women, is toxic and out of order”

which tallies precisely with your own account of what you said. All are verifiable as this is all printed in the thread above.

PS. I get you think retard is just a word, and I don’t really care what words you use, but you are responsible for them, and you know, by your own definition, given nearly all of your posts involve labelling others as retarded and whatnot- well are you worse or better than a rapist- or is that still a facile and pointless comparison that does nothing but insult women and men who have actually been raped.
The phrase ‘first world problems’ springs to mind - OH NOES THEY USED MY FORUMS FOR INSULT ITS JUST LIKE WHEN THOSE GUYS TIES THAT WOMAN TO THE BED AND ABUSED HER FOR 16 HOURS STRAIGHT.

And by the way, you can proclaim
"I don’t promote rape, I don’t call anyone rapist, you saying the opposite is just hypocritical."
Well its not hypocritical, because that would mean I was calling people rapists myself and condoning rape wouldn’t it.
I don’t think you promote rape I think you trivialise it and insult actual rape victims

But we wouldn’t even be having this conversation if you hadn’t been triggered by this:
But you haven’t really been insulted, but you do use retard and mentally ill to label those who disagree with you
see what I did there?

You see you think your labels are innocent and others are toxic, but you are the toxic one here, read this post, its all your words, I change nothing.

You compare someone coming to the forums to insult, to a man raping women, and you use retard and mentally ill to label those whose opinion you disagree with.

I say toxic, you say not, this is eve
get over it
But stop with the quotes to try and prove something or argue something that you lost minute you compared raping women(or men) to basically any other activity short of raping women (or men)-

You just quoted yourself doing just that.

I think you know its wrong, and that’s why you are desperately trying to cover it up.

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No I did not. read again. You are still distorting my phrasing by removing words out of it.
I don’t read the remaining of your post, because the first sentence you make is already wrong.

I’m tired of trying to explain you how to read properly. Maybe another day you will read this again and understand the difference between saying “raping a woman is stupid” and “enjoy women only when they rape them is stupid”. On this day you’ll learn the difference between a rapist and a pervert. Or not, actually I don’t care. Good luck talking with people with serious issues later.