Fixing some toxic exploits

I fit my Fourm ship with the following
Shitpost autocannon T2 x 5
Bait cyno x1

Small shield extender t2 x 2
Reddit Hull repair stick

Republic gyros x 5 ( for max DPS on the foiurms)

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OH MY GOD
YOU SAID THIS
EXACTLY VERBATIM

I totally agree with you, however the plain insults I got here when trying to get facts correct make me think many people come here only to insult and are mentally( ? sorry for bad wording, non-native speaker) unable to provide help. To me they exactly look like kids who are bored to death and enjoy nothing but to get into people’s courtyard and pee on their door when they are at work. And then, they call it “salt” and are proud of showing retardness. This is the same level of stupidity as people who enjoy women only when they rape them - just listen how many people talk about “rapping” other players.”

Once again, you quote one line only, so I’m going to give you a one line response that should tell you everything you need to know:

I think you trivialise rape and insult actual rape victims.

OF COURSE if you don’t read the rest of the post, you wont understand the global MEANING of the whole post because language DEPENDS ON CONTEXT for meaning.
That is also why your whole argumentative style of only quoting single lines and ignoring the SUBSTANCE of what others are saying to you, can only lead to none-productive argumentation.

Of course there is a semantic difference between saying ‘raping a woman is stupid’ and 'enjoy women only when they rape them is stupid’
I went over the difference in the post you selective quoted from, THAT YOU HAVE JUST SAID YOU DIDNT READ.

YOU ARE STILL USING THE RAPE OF WOMEN FOR RHETORICAL EFFECT IN A POST ABOUT BEING INSULTED IN A SPACESHIP GAME FORUM.

The only thing I will notice when I go back over this thread, is that you took a line from a post-
actually declared you read no further as if this somehow validates what you are saying-
and then wilfully started arguing with another straw man.

At least now I know I don’t have to reply to you again, when you told me you hadn’t read further, I didn’t believe you, you see, I know you did because you have already invested so much time and effort into picking little things out of other posts and typing all this stuff, now I know
YOU KNOW
you have absolutely no come back to the accusation that you trivialised rape for rhetorical effect to score points in an internet spaceship thread where you declared
(verbatim)
however the plain insults I got here when trying to get facts correct make me think many people come here only to insult and are mentally( ? sorry for bad wording, non-native speaker) unable to provide help. To me they exactly look like kids who are bored to death and enjoy nothing but to get into people’s courtyard and pee on their door when they are at work. And then, they call it “salt” and are proud of showing retardness. This is the same level of stupidity as people who enjoy women only when they rape them - just listen how many people talk about “rapping” other players.”
SO-
a) you say you think many people come here only to insult and are mentaly unable to provide help
Do you dispute you said this?
b)You then say they ‘look like’ and thus compare them to bored children who 'enjoy nothing but to get into peoples courtyards and pee on their door when they are at work.
Do you dispute you said this?
c)Then, you tell us these ‘children’ you have painted a picture of, who pee on courtyards, call their behaviour ‘salt’ and you say they are proud of their ‘retardness’ (sic).
Do you dispute you said this?
Then, having defined your target, the object of your discourse, you declare
d) "This is the same level of stupidity as people who enjoy women only when they rape them - just listen how many people talk about “rapping” other players.”
Do you dispute you said this?

So you pointed to a group of people- those who insult you-
you created a rhetorical trope in which you compared them to children and used common stigmas about the mentally ill and slurs on the disabled to ridicule their behaviour-
then compared the stupidity of that behaviour to the people who enjoy women only when they rape them.

So I say
Thus you are comparing one kind of act- using forums to insult only, with another act, using sexual intercourse to rape only.
the comparison works thus, and has this form: using forums to insult only is stupid, only enjoying women to rape them is stupid, and you declare
(VERBATIM)
This is the same level of stupidity
Do you dispute any of this?

So as I said, you trivialise rape, use petty childish language, ‘retard’, and take advantage of the stigma against the mentaly ill, to rhetorically exaggerate the impact of some guy insulting you on a forum, or sorry rather
people who only come to the forums to insult
never mind that the one guy you gave as an example of doing this made one of the most inciteful posts in the thread.

Have I gone through what you said with enough detail yet.
Do you want me to break each clause down further, do you want the analysis to extend on for days and weeks as you desperately try to dig yourself out of the hole you don’t want to be in because if you didn’t care

You just wouldn’t keep trying to prove that you didn’t actually make the comparison you made.

Please, go on, I am waiting to see what you have to say I am guessing it will be a one line quote from this text with a reason why I am ‘misunderstanding’ and an excuse for not reading the whole post, go on, by all means

You forgot Weaponised Autism RIg T2, to prevent poster from giving up and not having the last word once triggered

T2 rigs are fuking expensive man

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Honestly, you have no idea

you forgot the web. you can’t apply to mobile target.

this way I am sure I understand your line - and not over interpret it.

you compared them to children

yes

and used common stigmas about the mentally ill and slurs on the disabled to ridicule their behaviour

yes

-then compared the stupidity of that behaviour to the people who enjoy women only when they rape them.

yes

So I say
Thus you are comparing one kind of act- using forums to insult only, with another act, using sexual intercourse to rape only.

nope.

Which part of what posts did those isolated lines come from.

You do understand how arguments are constructed from premises, and that yu have just proven me 100% correct in every regard.

Here is my last post again- can you address it please, my meaning is clear- I am not ONLY saying what you seek to represent me as saying by only quoting single lines.

Please pay attention to the point when I break down your whole paragraph clause by clause, the question marks are to invite comment. Of course you can still argue that I don’t really mean
" you trivialise rape, use petty childish language, ‘retard’, and take advantage of the stigma against the mentaly ill, to rhetorically exaggerate the impact of some guy insulting you on a forum, or sorry rather
people who only come to the forums to insult" and dress it up as something else,

but please try to remember, you told us all you didn’t even READ my penultimate post, so how can you comment on any of this at all really

Here it is again- address it or I will consider you have given up

OH MY GOD
YOU SAID THIS
EXACTLY VERBATIM
I totally agree with you, however the plain insults I got here when trying to get facts correct make me think many people come here only to insult and are mentally( ? sorry for bad wording, non-native speaker) unable to provide help. To me they exactly look like kids who are bored to death and enjoy nothing but to get into people’s courtyard and pee on their door when they are at work. And then, they call it “salt” and are proud of showing retardness. This is the same level of stupidity as people who enjoy women only when they rape them - just listen how many people talk about “rapping” other players.”
Once again, you quote one line only, so I’m going to give you a one line response that should tell you everything you need to know:
I think you trivialise rape and insult actual rape victims.
OF COURSE if you don’t read the rest of the post, you wont understand the global MEANING of the whole post because language DEPENDS ON CONTEXT for meaning.
That is also why your whole argumentative style of only quoting single lines and ignoring the SUBSTANCE of what others are saying to you, can only lead to none-productive argumentation.
Of course there is a semantic difference between saying ‘raping a woman is stupid’ and 'enjoy women only when they rape them is stupid’
I went over the difference in the post you selective quoted from, THAT YOU HAVE JUST SAID YOU DIDNT READ.
YOU ARE STILL USING THE RAPE OF WOMEN FOR RHETORICAL EFFECT IN A POST ABOUT BEING INSULTED IN A SPACESHIP GAME FORUM.
The only thing I will notice when I go back over this thread, is that you took a line from a post-
actually declared you read no further as if this somehow validates what you are saying-
and then wilfully started arguing with another straw man.
At least now I know I don’t have to reply to you again, when you told me you hadn’t read further, I didn’t believe you, you see, I know you did because you have already invested so much time and effort into picking little things out of other posts and typing all this stuff, now I know
YOU KNOW
you have absolutely no come back to the accusation that you trivialised rape for rhetorical effect to score points in an internet spaceship thread where you declared
(verbatim)
however the plain insults I got here when trying to get facts correct make me think many people come here only to insult and are mentally( ? sorry for bad wording, non-native speaker) unable to provide help. To me they exactly look like kids who are bored to death and enjoy nothing but to get into people’s courtyard and pee on their door when they are at work. And then, they call it “salt” and are proud of showing retardness. This is the same level of stupidity as people who enjoy women only when they rape them - just listen how many people talk about “rapping” other players.”
SO-
a) you say you think many people come here only to insult and are mentaly unable to provide help
Do you dispute you said this?
b)You then say they ‘look like’ and thus compare them to bored children who 'enjoy nothing but to get into peoples courtyards and pee on their door when they are at work.
Do you dispute you said this?
c)Then, you tell us these ‘children’ you have painted a picture of, who pee on courtyards, call their behaviour ‘salt’ and you say they are proud of their ‘retardness’ (sic).
Do you dispute you said this?
Then, having defined your target, the object of your discourse, you declare
d) "This is the same level of stupidity as people who enjoy women only when they rape them - just listen how many people talk about “rapping” other players.”
Do you dispute you said this?
So you pointed to a group of people- those who insult you-
you created a rhetorical trope in which you compared them to children and used common stigmas about the mentally ill and slurs on the disabled to ridicule their behaviour-
then compared the stupidity of that behaviour to the people who enjoy women only when they rape them.
So I say
Thus you are comparing one kind of act- using forums to insult only, with another act, using sexual intercourse to rape only.
the comparison works thus, and has this form: using forums to insult only is stupid, only enjoying women to rape them is stupid, and you declare
(VERBATIM)
This is the same level of stupidity
Do you dispute any of this?
So as I said, you trivialise rape, use petty childish language, ‘retard’, and take advantage of the stigma against the mentaly ill, to rhetorically exaggerate the impact of some guy insulting you on a forum, or sorry rather
people who only come to the forums to insult
never mind that the one guy you gave as an example of doing this made one of the most inciteful posts in the thread.
Have I gone through what you said with enough detail yet.
Do you want me to break each clause down further, do you want the analysis to extend on for days and weeks as you desperately try to dig yourself out of the hole you don’t want to be in because if you didn’t care
You just wouldn’t keep trying to prove that you didn’t actually make the comparison you made.
Please, go on, I am waiting to see what you have to say I am guessing it will be a one line quote from this text with a reason why I am ‘misunderstanding’ and an excuse for not reading the whole post, go on, by all means

‘logically coherent’ invulnerability field activated
your t1 ‘quote miner’ misses for 0 damage

look, i mean you well and because of your cognitive circumstances i’ll jump in, in hope to help you.

i hope you understand that your posts, at this point, aren’t constructive. they’re rather pointless. they only serve the person that trolls you into writing big posts. there is no point, except breaking you. and that’s easily done with you noticinz only when it’s too late, or not at all.

Just in case you’re not aware, simply because you don’t understand and no one explained it to you:

  • you dominate the thread now
  • there is no point to this, expect to keep you talking
  • you put way more effort into it, than you should
  • you lose the typing war, as in: a minimal effort can make you post big posts.

This behaviour ruins threads. Sure, this thread was ■■■■■■■■ from the beginning, but knowing how to steer your behaviour will lead people to do it again, in others. it’s been a tactic for ages and it is not good. not for threads, not for the person doing it. you’re just being used as a tool and don’t get it. You’re not educating anyone and you explaining things is irrelevant at this point.

Always remember that too much posting can easily disconnect anyone from actual reality, and one can get lost in this ■■■■■■■■ some freaks want to pull you into. it’s like losing sight of what mattets and these last posts show that you did.

Stop.
Stfu.
Take a break from the forums.
Come back and question the point of writing these posts.
You put relevance into the posts of people who have none, and while i applaud your efforts, at the same time i have to wonder about your sanity.

i’m going to report my own post now and this whole thread (hi mr. and or mrs. ISD, please revi4w what’s going on) for being completely broken, derailed, off topic and mentally abusive. it never really had a point, the op just wanted people to join in crying (he’s not a good guy), and i don’t like seeing you engaging in this. i’ve seen it too often.

The only smart thing to do: report and or file a ticket.
stfu.
leave for a day.

i respect your posts, but this is nuts. you’re being used and you don’t ■■■■■■■ get it. trust me. thanks.

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Point taken.
Break taken.
Thanks.

(except I had so much time on my hands today and I enjoyed it so much- and they always stop before I do…but I guess that makes me a troll?? so a break I shall take).

nope.

I told you already that you were over interpreting me. If that’s what you enjoy, I won’t try to explain you that the words I chose are not the same as what you make me say, and so the meaning is not the same. If you had asked me the meaning of my sentence I may have answered you but it seems you are only interested in making me say I did things that I didn’t. So, nope.

You needed several hours to realize I was not talking about hord players, however such a subtle difference would need weeks I guess.

Also you don’t format your text, I can’t read it. quotes should start with > like this :

like this :

You just wouldn’t keep trying to prove that you didn’t actually make the comparison you made.

Because I didn’t say that insulting people on the forum is the same thing as raping someone. Which you still affirm I did. But I didn’t.

Because I didn’t say that insulting people on the forum is the same thing as raping someone. Which you still affirm I did. But I didn’t.

No that’s not what I affirmed. And you don’t read my posts anyway, first because you said you didn’t need to after one line, now because of formatting, which is particularly bad because I just repeated the same post.

So if you aren’t reading me, you aren’t arguing with me, this is literally not a discussion.

If you did, you would see I interpret nothing, VERBATIM means I am just quoting you exactly word for word.

And the statement ‘you trivialise rape’ or similar is an opinion, my opinion, which I guess you disagree with, but you can hardly say that disagreement is based on anything other than a desire to get me to respond because you aren’t even reading what I have been saying.

So @yellow_parasol is correct, and I should realise I am being baited by a troll and leave for a bit.

PS. I realised you were not talking about horde players when I read the post in which you said so, perhaps two hours passed, I’m not just sitting here refreshing forums you know. It’s not even relevant to our discussion which is about the over the top rhetoric you use to describe being insulted on an internet forum.

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No that’s not what I affirmed.

Thus you are comparing one kind of act- using forums to insult only, with another act, using sexual intercourse to rape only.

You affirm I was comparing the need to insult with rapists, which I was not.
also what means “using sexual intercourse to rape only.” ? I don’t get the wording of this sentence.

On most of your posts you start by telling me you know what I mean better than I do. There is no discussion when you try to force me into saying things I know are false, you are indeed wasting your time.
Because you can’t accept that I did not say nor mean what you affirmed, so there is no discussion.

You are also wasting time because you forgot the context in which I formulated this sentence : I was answering you about the fact that OP was losing his manners, and was agreeing with you that this would not help him. I was only sharing my feelings on this post :

[it seems] many people come here only to insult and are mentally( ? sorry for bad wording, non-native speaker) unable to provide help

Then I tell you this is something I don’t understand, and I basically tell you I can understand why he considers people stupid. I did not use “children” to make fun of them, but because I guessed you could understand that sometimes children do stupid things, and they are proud of their stupidity/retardness - I don’t know which term correspond the best - and you can’t help but think “those children are stupid”. I don’t know those children, but sure they look stupid. and they are proud of it and you can only ask yourself “Why ? What’s wrong with them ?”
That’s the context in which I made the sentence you can’t agree you misunderstood.

So this answers to some of your posts you made before e.g.

you created a rhetorical trope in which you compared them to children and used common stigmas about the mentally ill and slurs on the disabled to ridicule their behaviour-

No. But of course you can’t accept that answer, so why bother ? You even lost the context in which we were talking about people on this forum, so I go slowly, one sentence after the other : you misunderstood me and made a bad interpretation of what I was saying. And I repeat this sentence until you start to have thinks about it, and accept that maybe, you may have made a small mistake somewhere in your understanding of what I said.

well thanks yellow parasol, if you are saying it it means a lot to me :ribbon:

I posted this in this forum section not (maybe some are confused) to argue about this, but to bring up my ideas to deal with such activities

If you people over here want to over and over and over for some reason argue about a post I made which is intended towards CCP, be my guest, you’re wrong yellow parasol, if you want to cry over here that’s your choice, just blame me for doing it :aussiereversecongaparrot:

Who let Jita Local stream to the forums?

Well done. ignoring the haters and nutjobs most often leads further than engaging into pseudo discussions they only use against us anyway, because we mistakenly believe they’re rational, actually interested and honest.

thank you; stay vigilant. :slight_smile:

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http://www.dictionary.com/browse/verbatim

wow a whole squad :man_juggling:

how dare your trivialize the term verbatim ? You are creating a rhetorical trope in which you compare me to a dictionary to ridicule my behaviour !

no hon,
I was just pointing out I just quoted you word for word and from that formed an opinion,
you disagree with.

I get you cant engage in serious adult discussion,

@yellow_parasol is correct this was my fault for mistaking you for someone who wished to discuss rather than bait. If I carry on doing this with you I will be a Troll myself, and I don’t want that.

TLDR: I don’t like the way you use rape as a trope, you think its ok,
either as adults we agree to disagree and move on, perhaps saving what is left of this thread and letting our discussion die,
or you can continue as you are in which case why would I reply at all?

@yellow_parasol I haven’t waited till Sunday, but I have re-thought the tone and content of my posts, and will report and flag as necessary.