- Word salad, JFC use the enter key
- All of those activities can generate more than enough ISK for fund PvP.
- You seem to be assuming people should solo play. A newbro can null up and krab up ISK for easily.
Thankee.
Iâm coming to the conclusion that one of the main problems people have making isk is the âeitherâ part of this statement. Instead the key to getting lots of isk is âandâ. For example, in industry, looting and reprocessing and salvaging and pi and production and marketing (and mining - if you really hate yourself).
Once you figure ^^that^^ out itâs smooth sailing from there.
Do what you like/can do and ignore the rest. Game is broken and CCP doesnât want to spend money to fix it so if you like the game, as I do, just play it nonchalant without expecting much, youâll definitely wonât âwinâ since itâs supposed to be open-world.
just something to play to take a break from your other games. Donât spend real money on it and fly Destroyers you can buy cheap, you can find many in the Contract section, usually cheaper and fully fitted.
Mine in empty systems and dock when you see NPCâs or use drones or undock your Destroyer, wipe out the NPCâs and then continue mining.
Once that gets boring just log off and play another game until you feel like mining again.
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Game isnât broken, but maybe your expectations of the game were broken.
By the way, Iâm glad you didnât continue your plan to biomass your characters before leaving the game.
I just hope you made the right choice to stay around though as you really did seem you needed a break from EVE last week. Either way, welcome back!
After all is said ⌠I think most came to Eve in the first place because it offers so much freedom to do what you want. They then leave Eve because of the freedom OTHERs take for themselfs to do with you as they want. The feeling of helplessness and a pure toxic (at least in these forums) community lets them leave the game. Had a corp-mate that came freshly in, bought some 20 skillinjectors (from sold plex), got shot away in his shuttle leaving Jita with the injectors in his cargo. Well ⌠he rage quit.
Yes, all his fault, he should have asked on how to use skill injectors or how to transport things in Eve ⌠but he didnât. He never came back âŚ
Then while I waited for the things to settle a bit down after the great war, I began to play New World ⌠had a corp-mate that I knew from Eve ⌠he quited New World because of ⌠tata ⌠no auto-aim. 40 Euros for the bin 
just my 2 cents
Yes, that is what competitive open world pvp sandbox kinda means. People who dive into a game without doing like 5 minute research on it before doing so and spending time and/or money. Their fault, their problem, not something to fix on the gameâs side apart from perhaps better advertisement.
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Well, with that additude it will stay difficult to keep NewBros ⌠at least I think.
Just my 2 cents
Depends on the type of newbro.
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Welcome to a niche pvp sandbox where thinking is required. Youâre not going to attract and/or keep most, which is fine.
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Its wierd how people being accused of being toxic and taking things for themselves also started from nothing and also had to claw a niche for themselves.
But Im sure they just got all the breaks in life the others never got, huh?
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In your opinion bruv. I notice my fellow Americans often getting opinion confused as the truth.
So you couldnât even handle a WoW PvP server? Interesting.
Brave words from someone who went on a pity parade all over the forums ROFL.
So you didnât biomass and just were attention oring. Figures. Why would you dock when you see NPCs? De faq? Just use your drones ROFL. Even a ventureâs 2 drones can take out high sec rats.
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You literally didnât or your opinion would be the same. You seem to not understand that different experiences leads to different opinions.
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Oh yea, my t3 destroyer absolutely eating a lvl 4 mission boat totally took a lot of thinking to f1 and orbit under their guns lol.
It wasnât the skill training or pve activity to even afford the hull that was the majority of my work to get to that point. It was totally because my f1 and orbit skills were too good lmao.
I literally didnt start from nothing and preservre through the same experiences as everyone else and didnt end up giving up?
Looks around
And yet Im still on Omega and active in game.
Thats wierd.
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Exactomondo!
I spent time last night explaining to a one day old rookie why it was not a great idea to travel to a trade hub while carrying skill injectors in a corvette - which he would set on autopilotâŚ
Why and how rookies discover the trade value of injectors and the ease of âautopilotâ even BEFORE they do ANY of the career agents will never cease to amaze me. They seem to be doing at least some type of research, and fast, into shortcuts to a more favorable start in EvE - which do not exist, of course, EvE sees to it that they come here to complain about being content for vets 
It may be useful if you can learn WHERE they pick up such advice. The only way how I see fresh newbies coming up with crazy bad, unintuitive schemes like that, is if someone else presents those ideas to them first.
Do you remember that Kestrel full of PLEX that time?
Also, during the Triglavian Invasions so many chumps auto piloting and losing their ships without even thinking.
I got me a nice Leopard out of that (how lacking in forethought does a person have to be to transport a Leopard in a frieghter?).
I dont think anyone tells them anything, I think they think they know it all.
In EvE no one knows it all.
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I often bring a shuttle along in my ships with large cargohold (provided I have spare space). Itâs really useful as it gives your pilot the freedom to easily move around in the shuttle, you just need to (temporarily) dock the bigger ship somewhere. 500m3 packaged is pretty much nothing for a lot of convenience.
If I hauled more often and had enough ISK, my shuttles could be Leopards as well. Too bad Iâm usually short of ISK. 
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I think we both know where. And one could ask the question if certain (copied) marketing and business approaches are good for new player retention. Cutting corners in EvE leads to banging into two walls.
The chat log is unaltered. And you only need to spend time in rookie help to know that those are frequent topics. But, by all means, believe what you will, it makes no difference.
Yup. And also the many shuttles, even with plex vaults already installed but unused. 
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