Forever cloacked and AFK

CCP will it be possible to change some game mechanics for cloaking and afk camping ? When will be something done about hot drops that only thrive players away ? Dont you wannt more ppl to play eve ? Dont you want more active players and less afk accounts that ruin the gameplay for most of those who are active ? I am playing for over 20 years now, but i never saw in another game something like afk invulneralble in active game areas. Maybe in 2025 you will do something for the best of the game …

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In before the usual pundits comment

Jesus H. Christ, not this again…

I swear, you people won’t be happy until the ability to cloak is removed completely.

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They can’t AFK cloak 24/7. There is a timer and you have ways of decloaking them. It’s not like they can just sit in one spot cloaked for 23 hours out of the day and just go to work and leave their ship sitting there.

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Active players aren’t the ones whining about cloaky camping, it’s the nullsec krab bot fleets…

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Holding sov is a meme. Its not actually your space. It belongs to cloakers and hot droppers AND YOU WILL LIKE IT.

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When someone is AFK they cannot harm you, do they? :wink:

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Cloaky droppers wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt for the fact you have to rat or mine for like an hour to make up for losing 40M isk. The worst part is they just filament out after shitting on you. They dont even want the space themselves.

Oof, might want to improve those skills or get a more effective ship.

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Why in 2025 when it was already done in 2021?

https://tagn.wordpress.com/2021/05/18/ccp-takes-aim-at-cloaky-campers-in-eve-online/

You are clearly not playing for over 20 years. At least you haven’t been playing since 2021 and missed the change completely. There is no forever AFK cloaking anymore.

My guess is you are a returning player and should dock up immediately to get up to speed on current game mechanics. Otherwise you are in danger of ragequit due to ship loss.

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There must be a way to deal with cloaky campers, I mean…

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ehi, didn’t you make a post about you were leaving eve ? why you are still here ?

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Just to stir up the pot: I also consider myself somewhat experienced in the game and I cannot share the position that the current situation is very balanced.

Longtime cloaking is still way too easy, the ability to jump in cyno reinforcements too powerful as a threat. The Mobile Observatory too costly for an absolutely underwhelming performance. It will almost never lead to an actual kill or even a successful removal of the cloaker (rare exceptions), as it just forces him to renew his decloak-defense timer once every 15minutes, so he stays totally immune. And thats an easy task on an alt that has the only purpose to wear down the locals attention over time, to strike them with a cyno-ambush later on. Yes, the Mobile Observatory removed the option to really “afk cloak” for hours and days. But that doesn’t mean the situation is “good” now. It’s better, yes. It’s still “bad” from my perspective.

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Like I said, people won’t be happy until it’s removed entirely. They whined for the first 15 years about players being able to perma-cloak, so CCP changed it to where they can’t, and they are still whining about it.

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And they have good reason to. Imho. But thats a topic both ends of the spectrum will never agree, so :man_shrugging:

All I can tell you is the only players whining about it are in nullsec. The existence of cloaks doesn’t stop players in high sec, low sec, or wormhole space from doing what they do. It’s just null, because they want their perfectly safe sector of space to krab in 24/7…

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Nah, its Null because neither HighSec nor WH-space can be cyno-hotdropped.
And Lowsec just a huge staging area for hotdroppers, allies of hotdroppers or FW/Pirates who burn around in S-class gangs (Frigs, Destroyers) or some pimped Nanocruisers that are no good hotdrop targets anyway. But nobody relly lives in Lowsec in the way that he claims, develops, defends, manages/farms an area because that is his main source of income.

That leaves null. Those people renting small systems or claiming some constellation simply are there to actually live there. Of course they want to farm. Of course they want to get profits in return to their investments in ISK and time. The problem isn’t even that others come to fight about it. The problem is that combination of a cloak and cyno which forces you to carry a huge shield all the time to prevent you from being just headshotted. For better comparison imagine you would need to put on a complete body armor and kevlar helmet and use an armored truck any time you leave your house. No sitting relaxed in the garden. No barbecue. No walk in the park. All that because some camouflaged sniper is in the area that can headshot you from behind any moment. And you have no single tool to actually find him if he doesn’t want to. And even if you do, he is back within an hour, knowing you have lost more ISK than he had because his CovOps with the CovertCyno was cheaper than your Mobile Observatory. Would you enjoy that life? I would certainly not.

What they do isn’t “whining”. Its reasonable complaint about the tools of putting pressure on each other aren’t in balance.

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If high sec players had that same mindset, nothing would ever get done. For example, when I’m mining, anyone that wants to could be sitting right next to me cloaked, and I’d never even know it. That ship could be used as a fleet warp-to for a gank squad, and if I’m not paying attention to local, I’m screwed. It’s no different.

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gee, it’s been days since we’ve had a ‘complain about cloaky campers’ thread.
here’s an idea: use that cloaky to bait out a fight? have your own counterdrop ready to go and dangle a juicy target in front of said cloaky?

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