Forever cloacked and AFK

I sure do…

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I wanted a soapbox emoji but now I want a “mouthwatering” one! :laughing:

Nullbear tears best tears? :thinking:

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L take. No offence but you didn’t say anything convincing, You barely made a point beyond whining about something you don’t like, and to me, I’m not even sure what that thing is. I don’t mean to offend you, I’m sure you do have a point, you just haven’t made it clear here.

OP says players (miners, PvErs and maybe even PvPers) are active yet a cloaked (AFK?) player somehow ruins their fun. Despite CCP already addressed the issue several times by now I think.

So in the end it all comes down to this:

:wink:

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I don’t get it though. I don’t play in Null. Being cloaked and AFK is a problem because?

It’s not. Cynos are the real problem. People in Null don’t want cloaked ships opening Cyno portals which can call in a huge fleet without having to use the gate.

Most ships (or all) can set off a Cyno, but they can’t keep an eye on the cloaked ships so that scares them. It’s only a problem in Low and Null sec.

It’s cheap psychological warfare.
The ratters in system don’t know if you’re afk or if you’re waiting for an opportunity to tackle them and light a Cyno to blap them with a fleet of Bombers or blops.

Mephiz and Glen. I thought it took time to light a cyno, and you had to be uncloaked to do it. How long does it take to light a cyno? Because if it’s long enough to scan down and destroy the target before the cyno is ready, then it seems like a skill issue and they need to git gud.

You’re correct. I don’t know how long it takes, but you do have to decloak. Still- it makes them nervous.

If there will be a delay on lighting a cyno and on cloacking/recloacking, it will not be that easy to stay cloacked for many hours and decloack, cyno and drop blop, all in 1 sec…

About 1 second (aka 1 server tick). And like 5 seconds later the whole fleet is through.

Good luck suggesting that. They don’t want to gid gud. They want to keep the cloaky in the target system for hours and hours to wear down the attention and discipline of the locals with minimal effort and then strike them within seconds, befor any counterforce can react, so they get their BO/T3/Bomber gang out without a loss.

Cynos are a cancer and should be reworked to be a strategical deployment feature, but never a tactical teleporter. They need delays to open and limitations how they work: No more bridging of cheap ships. Only Conduit jumping (limited number), so the expensive BO/Titan always needs to jump too and then being automatically unable to warp/mjd/cyno out for a time. So, if you want to go all in with reinforcements, you can. But at a risk losing your expensive Jump-Ship. Remote-Hotdropping someone with a mobile gang that can bail anytime the opponents dare to fight back: No.

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You are absolutely right. A lot of players and i fully support what you said about cynos.

Yeah, thank you. But don’t even hope, Nullblocks and the LowSec Landlords will make sure that won’t happen. Since they blob any engagement to death all the time, the only way for them to get any fights is baiting and hotdropping. At least fights they can easily win. They could of course go for a fight in their own weight class and attack another group of similar size, but why should they want that? Hotdroppers want easy kills, curbstomps without risks… and they are large enough with enough influence to make sure CCP doesn’t hurt their gameplay.

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Simple fix: Sov hub cyno-scrambling upgrade.

Tenebrex Cyno Jammer does that.

It won’t stop covert cynos though, and by design, as covert cynos and jump drives are designed specifically to get behind enemy lines for hit-and-run guerilla attacks.

Such attacks should only be possible in systems without cyno scramblers

Which is the case for regular cynos and the regular ships that jump through them.

Covert cynos are special though.

So special they break the game

I like them, they’re some of my favourite gameplay in this game.

Edit: was in response to ‘so special no one likes them’