Oh the irony of it…
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Long story short, it doesn’t matter what you do to freighters, they are going to get ganked regardless. They will simply use more ships to pop it. There are many gankers out there who don’t do it for profit, they do it for the tears, no matter the cost…
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ask them what?
LMAO the Wardec groups predicted exactly how things would go with the Dec Mechanics changes.
They are doing business as usual, but yet there are still “Carebears” crying about it, and especially crying how they cant defend their moon ore cause now they have to gank to do so.
so yes they get what they deserve. period. end of discussion for you on this part of the topic.
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And when they keep getting popped even after getting buffed, someone will come back to the forums whining that they are still getting popped and to buff them even more. It’s a never ending cycle. Give 'em an inch, and they’ll take a mile…
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True enough, people are always going to make it worthwhile for others to gank them by dint of making silly choices.
This is also true, some people just want to watch the world burn; I just want to sell matches and flammable liquids to them.
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Read up. I’m happy to add proof. I’ve already stated a few times. But as above, I expect to update that on Monday. It;s nearing 8pm on Friday in Iceland.
Sometimes things take a bit of time.
No surprise your words are just hollow. “rough number” but not willing to back that up at all.
No, I’m not asking you to prove the opposite. Just doing exactly the same as you, in a childish circular game of stupid we are both engaging in.
You claimed it’s just a “rough number”, so prove it’s just a rough number.
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And 2x is apparently not rough enough.
You sir are an idiot…
Folding and consolidating are two very different things… the latter being what quite a few of them have done.
And their pool of targets has not dried up at all… jesus you living under a rock? or just stupid?
But then, im not talking about the Wardec groups, i was talking originally about Carebears getting what they deserve.
Carebear= Someone unwilling to learn how to play EvE, unwilling to learn to mitigate risk and instead running to the Forums to rely on the Dev’s to change everything in their favor instead of learning how to play the game.
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In return for what? You can’t simply buff one thing without modifying something else, else the whole game gets out of balance. The only thing that increasing the EHP would do is encourage freighter pilots to use less tank and go for max cargo, and if you are going for max cargo then you deserve to get popped.
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That buff means that freighters would load more expensive cargo on average. That would mean that need for freighters would decline, making their profits the same as before, but losses would become more costly.
That would mean reopening this thread to request yet another buff.
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If you are that paranoid, just use an ungodly tanked DST, scout, and a webber. Or use unconventional methods of transport. Transporting valuables that are more than a frigate can carry, but less than a cargo hauler? Use a tanked Skiff or similar ship that they won’t look twice at going through the gate.
Since the wardec changes our whole alliance has switched to wardecs as a means of ISK generation to fund our normal low/null pvp. We’ve taken down about 60 odd structures now and regularly face other wardec groups that ally into wars to expand their target pool.
It’s the opposite of decreased pool of targets. There are a number of groups out shooting structures and having a great time with the changes that were introduced.
A good example is the structure we killed last night (AU time):
If you look at the killboard of that group, you’ll see they are wardeccers too. They allied into a war we are in, so we went and shot their HQ while we wait timers on the other structures we are shooting.
It’s fun all around.
Your understanding of the effect of the wardec changes is wrong. We have a much larger pool of targets.
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Rubbish. I never said that. You are an idiot.
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Apparently 1 to 4 a day by one specific group, and further into the thread 10+ over a 3 day period with no specified group.
I’m not disputing their numbers, I’m disputing what percentage of total hisec freighter traffic the OP’s numbers represent; I’d guess that the percentage is in fact extremely low, as in less than a single percentile.
If ganked freighters do indeed represent <1% of the total freighter traffic in hisec then I see no need for freighters to be mechanically buffed by CCP; any buff needs to come from the actions and choices of the people flying them.
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Haha. You can’t even stick to what you said. You wrote:
We exist and we have a much larger pool of targets.
What you wrote is wrong, but that happens because you are writing without actually having any experience in what you are talking about.
It’s unfortunately an all too common thing in the forum.
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its not personal…
as my first (and most favorite NCO) use to always say…
“I call a Spade when I see a Spade.”
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unfortunately in your case i believe its a fact, not an insult.
and i would not be conversing with you in the first place if you had not opened your gob and said something dumb.
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No.
It’s has only increased for us since the wardec changes. Prior to that we didn’t pvp in highsec at all. Now we do. As a result, our potential targets have increased be the entire number of wardec eligible corps. We aren’t the only ones where that is true.
You are still wrong and will continue to be wrong because you have no experience in what you are writing about.
The changes are also not affecting the number of kills that other groups are getting in a negative way. PIRAT for example are getting more kills since the changes, than they did prior.
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Your statement was:
“ones that still exist have a significantly decreased pool of targets”
We exist and our pool of targets, direcly resulting from the wardec changes, which encouraged us to pursure wars as a means of generating ISK, has only increased.
You shouldn’t just write rubbish and expect to be correct, when you have no experience in what you are writing about.
Any pool above 0 is an increase for us. So we’ve expanded into wars where we didn’t operate at all before. From 0 to anything is an increase in targets.
I’d use the “genius” term back at you, but it clearly doesn’t apply.
We aren’t the only ones that have done that either and on a straight kills count from the killboards, PIRAT’s pvp activity has increased as a result of the wardec changes.
Yes. Without the changes, we still wouldn’t wardec. Our pool of targets is bigger, directly as a result of the changes.
You can think you have it all figured out all you like but your claim was ■■■■■■■■, just like your posting. Go get some experience and you might actually learn something.