The others do not want to complain because they think it will give the people that did the exploit more satisfaction for what they did and continue to do it bla bla
Salt blabla
Incursions are just another content CCP wants to let it rot. like all other things they let die
I see, so in essence nobody really wants to do anything about it whether in-game or out of it, and come up with excuses to justify their inaction.
Then all I can say is: it is well deserved what is happening to the incursion community, as if only one (or few) of the thousands affected care enough to bother complaining then it really is a no issue, self-admitted by the community as a whole, thus nothing to see here I guess.
You are so wrong in so many ways,
Good morning. I see this thread blew up overnight. Did you post your message everywhere? Have you tried writing an email to the Secretary of Commerce of your local state government to make them aware of this issue? Theyâre usually in charge of making sure vagabonds and thieves donât interrupt the flow of commerce.
Thanks!
You may find answers in this reddit topic. The Deep State might be involved in all of this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1cktemp/is_ccp_paying_highsec_gankers_to_insta_pop_hs/
Another memorable thread created by the same author on a fresh forum alt in 2022.
The game seems to be too forgiving ?
Nah, Hawk just found the âturn off PvE buttonâ instead.
Easy to say when you donât have any.
âi think ccp intentedâ dosnât mean ccp actualy intented how expansion should be play.
I have no idea what you mean.
I am voting Drake Iddon as CSM
Donât bother reading the comments of the trolls here, CCP allow people to band together and harass different opinions.
That being said, paying more money is not a reason to be granted more of a thing.
You are correct that this is griefing. However this is griefing that is allowed in the game. Now again, as many other mechanisms including suicide ganking, the griefer has a huge advantage, but the imbalance has yet to be proven - which you should do, but did not in your first post.
I suggest you remove the parts about paying, since they are irrelevant to the balance issue, and instead explain why it is imbalanced.
IMO itâs just killing the content for the sake of denying gameplay to players, which should be enough to get them banned for harassment.
But again, those players paying or not is not a concern. Other players making an activity and a community impossible, however, is.
That being said, I have no idea how it works. To my understanding, once an incursion pops, there is a anomaly that can be completed to despawn it. So the incursion enters a 1D cooldown , so the next day the same group kill it again ?
What do they gain from killing the mom ? What do you think could be done ? In which case is it ok to kill it ?
Could a 1D delay before mom spawning help ? Do you have another suggestion that would make those mechanisms less abusable ?
Having a different opinion is not allowed?
Which is it?
You do realise that you can flag posts to silence anyone that disagrees with you, right?
Hooo boy, seems I missed a doozy here.
To OP: I am very sorry, but you do not have the right to determine who can kill the Mom. That is just not how Eve works. If you want Hawk and the others to stop, you have to make them stop.
All in all, ggwp. Top sh*thousery all round. There is no drama like incursion drama.
Wow, and here I was thinking that there was a worldwide salt shortage.
My blood pressure shot up about 600 points.
Fun fact!
Contesting a hi-sec incursion is not griefing. Itâs allowed. TVP/TDF etc all compete for completing the Kundalini Manifest.
It doesnât belong to anyone. Whoever gets there first can do it.
Whining about it isnât going to change anything.
CCP doesnât care. If you want to play farmville, go play farmville.
Undocking in Eve is consent to be shot, or scammed, or many many other types of gamestyle.
You want to keep an Incursion for yourself? Go to Low-sec or Null-sec and give it a try. Just donât blame anyone when you get shot instead of contested.
The Mom, or whatever else in this game, is for those that manage to kill it, grab it, loot it. Competition is not griefing. Attacking an incursion running group (which is highly skilled and organized, with often blingy ships that may be the legitimate targets for gate camps, btw) is high risk ganking, not griefing (and was not even an element in OP). Threatening to attack is not griefing. Itâs normal gameplay in a game of attacking and defending and seeking advantage any way possible.
Taking loot and payouts from you or OP is not harassment. Itâs competition. Harassment could be the foul language in local chat, if anything, when those that saw âtheirâ content reduced become noisy and unsportsmanlike.
Different opinions are being voiced. However, there is, on average, a limited amount of patience for entitlement and bs opinions. Along the same lines, is your attempt to revive this thread not more harassment ?
Sweet goodness what on earth did I miss before this showed up on the main page.
Back away slowly⌠Very slowly⌠We have some very agitated people here. Go touch grass and maybe get a hobby or go to NS. Some really cool NS events happening atm. I might even try it out later this year!
Even taking out the objective for the sole reason that others canât claim it isnât âHarrassmentâ. Taking it out for the sole reason to âtake out as soon as possibleâ isnât âHarassmentâ. Antigankers in Uedama for example remote-repair the Gankerâs targets for the sole reason to deny the Gankerâs the kill. They donât want loot, they donât want rewards, they just want to mess up the Gankerâs plan. And thats totally okay. Sometimes in WH Space people drop CombatProbes on a Ratting Crew just to scare them and make them warp out and dock, even if they canât really engage them at all. Sometimes people smartbomb Pods, just o make them explode, no loot, no reward, no bounty, just for the sake of sending them back to the home station. Smaller groups are evicted from WHs just for the sake of blowing their stuff up, even if the attackers donât want the hole and canât expect much loot or anything, just for the fun of it. All that isnât Harassment.
âHarrassmentâ is when I repeatedly and directly engage a specific other player over a longer time period, even if he clearly indicated that he doesnât want to interact with me and is even willing to change area and/or gameplay acitvity. To the point that he canât really do anything without me jumping on him. And CCP already has made clear that they donât allow this and the offender will receive a clear warning to stop it for face consequences.
