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That’s the point. Rorqs are also restricted to low-null, meaning anyone can shoot and kill it. They are also very expensive.

Again, that’s the point. Orcas are support ships with massive hp that can be used in hisec.

A ship that is in hisec needs to be able to be taken down by a reasonable amount of gankers. Because of their hp, they are able to survive a ton of gankers. And you want them to be on par with dedicated mining barges?

Are you kidding me?

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So what’s the argument that orcas should outmine most mining barges?

What is the reason why this would necessarily benefit hisec?

Not so long ago they where both just support ships that did not mine very well, they basically had the exact same role (staying at a safe spot buffing/supporting a fleet.
Now they both need to be on grid with the fleet to buff/support.
They are now longer just support ships they are industrial command ships but they no longer have the same role as only the brother got the big mining bonus.

Little brother and tiny brother for that matter should be good at mining to.

Also both little brothers can enter low and nul sec space, they are not high sec only ships.

So no I’m not kidding

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my orca out mines almost all my barges but cov/hulk unless i have them all no tank all yeild

They won’t in real application. If I am at zero all the time on every roid then yes, but that is absurd.

Because they are the top end ship for hisec. However people do use them in lowsec and nullsec, and better yield would help them too.

where do the asteroids in high sec keep coming from?

the game has been released for 15 years, ccp should remove asteroid from high sec. they are finished, there is nothing but dust

Perhaps all the moons should get mined out too while we are at it? Even better that they reduce to nothing across all of the game. [sarc]

Some people have suggested it across the game as a whole, in one way it would be interesting, but in another it would just result in a no game which means new players would be screwed.

In my personal opinion … and only my opinion! I think all caps should be allowed back into Hi Sec

Just give Concord their own Titans / Carriers / Dreads …

In terms of the Orca this is certainly in my list of nice to have in that it would improve my game play a bit. I don’t understand why players who don’t even mine get so emotional about it.

I have not logged in and done anything since Thursday even though I have made about 83.33% of the Capital parts needed for my Nidhoggur. I am actually debating just buying the minerals, but that is kinda meh. The Nidhoggur is to do something suicidal…, just to see if it could be done. Anyway perhaps in a day or two I can push myself to get mining again.

The best way to mine in highsec is stealing it from jetcan miners. You absolutely can not beat that ore/hr. There’s simply nothing comparable to just letting someone else work for it and then taking it for yourself, because he was too dumb, or careless, to keep it safe from others.

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You should move around more, because there’s plenty of full belts in highsec.

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You still haven’t learned what projection actually is, or how to spot it.

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So says the person who defines all carebears as fascists. The irony…

So you also don’t know what irony means? Because there is none there. I’ll ignore that you, as usual, fail to address a post that actually talks about your numerous deficiencies.

That being said …

I’m still challenging you to a ganking contest.

Why don’t you accept my challenge?

Please … be my guest. You’ll get the thrashers, turrets and modules sponsored too! I have over five thousand turrets, and the accompanying modules, waiting to get wiped from the database. :blush:

Also try, for once, actually addressing what is said without all the pityful and sad attempts of lashing out on others like a SJW. It makes you look like a loner.

Btw, if you just keep doing the same you’re always doing, i’ll just keep not reading your posts.

Like the last two you wrote, responding to me.

Thanks!

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Man, that reply takes you ages.

A simple “I accept.” would be sufficient.

… minutes pass …

okay i guess i won’t be reading it then, because it’s predictable anyway.

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I am suggesting in this thread that the Orca’s base bonus could be increased by 20% in terms of yield, just to make it a bit better and more engaging. And all you want to do is talk about what you perceive as my personal deficiencies.

And that from a comment when I said that I had ganked. You want to prove something, not sure what? I can guess though.

Go and have fun with it, I saw you the other day hanging 350 km off the gate in Urlen I think it was, I went there with my other combat character to blow up your thrasher, but you had logged. Such is life…

Having fun blowing up stuff as you are doing, there is nothing wrong with it.

I did, I think Rorquals are not something that should be in hisec and I then made a case for a buff to the Orca. Of course others have a different view. I am as far from a SJW as you can get.

Good and can you kick the Edgy one while you are at it.

Is that a win condition?

Checking for spelling mistakes, seeing as it makes you giddy. :stuck_out_tongue:

In terms of ganking, if I decided to go after someone for strategic reasons in game I would gank them, scam them etc. Ganking is not really something that appeals to me as such unless it is a means to an end.

If I was to do it I would use Lucas, but he is not thrasher trained and I have Dracvlad doing T2 large Precursor and then I have to do some Indy training on another character which is very high priority for me. This is the type of issue that many ignore.

@Solstice_Projekt ofc he was never going to accept :joy:

did you expect the biggest pansy on these forums to actually do something dangerous? Hahahagahahaharhahah

Why do you think he uses an alt to go shoot undefended citadels? Or wants cloaky afk to not be a thing, or bumping :joy:

Btw @Dracvlad what’s your definition of edgy?
I’m really interested to know

They are good at mining. And they are STILL mining support ships.

But they don’t need to be better than a dedicated mining ship, which they currently seem to be since people use them for solo mining.

That’s a problem in my opinion.

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That’s the exact point I’m trying to make.
They are STILL just mining support ships
But the Rorq have become the best mining ship in game 5+ X better than a Hulk (dedicated mining ship) as you call them.
But that’s ok because you have a Rorq.