High sec should be.. more safe

I’m not going to pursue this any further, because the outcome doesn’t really matter, but we appear to be talking about different things here.

You keep talking about what you think alphas should be, but I don’t see how that’s relevant to the question of why alphas being what they are should be allowed to go criminal in high sec or not.

Whatever your reasons for thinking alphas shouldn’t be allowed to go criminal, it cannot be that you think they should be something they’re not, that doesn’t make sense. They’re what they are, and any rational opinion on whether they should be allowed to go criminal or not should be based on what they are, not what you think they should be but aren’t…

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I’m saying on the premise that alpha accounts are for trials, player abuse of alphas would be reduced if they could not go red. Specifically, you wouldn’t be able to just roll a bunch of alphas for suicide ganks in different systems, so that when a ping comes out you can’t just log into XYZ for the gank.

Yet, on the flip side, when said alpha accounts are indeed used for trials, they must absolutely have the opportunity to go red to truly experience Eve.

Alpha clones are for example used that way as nullsov harrasment skirmishers (though null, so red safety is moot there). Concept is you have an alpha or ten that you leave scattered through hostile space. Order is given to log into the alphas in XYZ, you harrass there until they respond. Log off, and onto a different alpha on the opposite side of their space, harrass until they respond. Rinse and repeat throughout their space, wearing down their membership’s willingness to log on for a ping. Then you hit them with the mains after they’ve exhausted their membership’s patience. It’s an infuriating harassment tactic that I feel is an abuse of an alpha clone. It’s so Eve it’s ridiculous.

Hi-Security space, like being mugged inside the Fed or the US President mugged in the oval office.

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I bet you totally could mug Trump in the oval office. They’d undoubtedly shoot your ass afterward (ironically the same as concord!), but if you could get close enough it makes sense that you’d be able to impart sufficient motivation to relieve him of his wallet.

DO NOT MAKE THIS GAME MORE SAFE in any SEC

It’s lame enough. Please, do the opposite. This game is turning into a total snoozefest. Not the same game I started playing years ago.

Go play sim city if you want to farm, wuss.

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No, ■■■■ off.

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hmph, if you are honestly going to tell others you dont grind rocks in nullsec, or rats in anoms or belts for ISK then im honestly going to call you an idiot and a troll, let a lone a worthless leech for what ever alliance or corp you are in.
Cause you sir are just a plain liar.

I agree alphas should not be able to go red.

In fact going REd and suicide ganking in HS, should be for omegas only…behind a paywall.

Otherwise there is always Losec and Nullsec.

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New names ::–

Hi-sec -> Less dangerous Sec.
Lo-sec -> More dangerous Sec
Null-sec -> Very dangerous Sec
J-space -> Here Be Dragons !

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I’d like to invoke an oldy but a goody for this thread
https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4958992#post4958992
I’m pretty sure the idea of any changes to ganking mechanics, CCP protection, and etc has already been laid to rest.

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If only that where true
Hi-sec → Gank land
Lo-sec → More dangerous Sec
Null-sec → Whiner baby safe space
J-space → Here Be Dragons !

More like:
Hi-sec -> Forum whiner and “CCP put an end to ganking or you’ll lose players” land
Lo-sec -> Empty barren wasteland
Null-sec -> Land where you can do anything you like
J-space -> Land of small gang, elite nano kitey PvPers

I don’t think you realise that you just made a very important point here. You would like hisec to be lowsec, an empty barren wasteland…

Pirate types have free rein in lowsec, just to remind you of that. Also if you don’t want restrictions on your play, then nullsec and WH space is open to you.

But you sit in hisec and try to get it turned into lowsec.

So you whine that hisec is too safe, do you want cheese with your whine?

This is a dumb thread. I disagree with it on a personal level. Highsec even safer? I smoke weed a lot but that’s silly.
Highsec
High sec
High security
Losec
Lowsec
Low sec
Low security
Nullspace
Nllspa
Krsp
Krabs

It all makes sense, ok?:face_with_monocle::no_good_man:

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Not Asking Aiko here, but, does this have any truth to it?

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This actually makes a lot of sense. I would simply rename hisec to mildsec or medium sec or something. Would prepare players much better for what is to come.

I can’t say to what extent, and maybe she should have worded it slightly differently, but AFAIK there is some truth in it, yes. This is actually one of the many things you were missing when some time ago I told you you need to learn A LOT more about the game before pretending you might be able to come up with some coalition of miners to defeat them.

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Why wouldn’t you ask me? Just ask yourself. Who do you think is paying for all those catalysts? hmm… :thinking:

Here’s another brain twister for you… What if the people in CODE, with all their evil multiboxing, are actually the alts of people who aren’t in highsec? :kissing_heart:

I’ll leave you with this thought. Pandemic Horde and Goonswarm aren’t at war when they jump in their catalysts and gank highsec miners with their cloaky wormhole friends! Praise James, the great uniter! :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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Exactly. Why do you think that might be? :stuck_out_tongue: :rofl:

A lot of CODE people were once highsec carebears who saw the light