Ice Prices Dropped

Not necessarily with how easy afk mining is becoming. Remember all those afk orcas? They got a yield buff.

Of course it is. The amount of ice from hi-sec is far from insignificant. I don’t know the number for today, but a few years ago highsec could provide 67% of the entire games ice consumption. Theres now more ice than ever before, including in hi-sec, and it’s never been easier to mine. On top of that there may be less demand for ice than before because of citadel nerfs.

Edit- anyone that wants to see the effect high sec mining has on prices can look at isogen as an example now that it’s been moved to low sec.

https://evemarketer.com/types/37/history

AFK mining IS botting. It is just a bot without a script. CCP should ban anybody engaged in such vile activity.

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then there goes 15k of the 20k daily active users :laughing:

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We will still have the 1.5k docked at Jita.

Cool, I am sure you are right and none of the other changes have any bearing on Ice prices. Correlation is causation and all that, eh?

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That works same as @isd and that NONE get notified to come here. If you wanna summon vily, tag em.

:roll_eyes:

People on the CSM should actually play the game.

Here is a antiganking mining guild saying the exact same thing as me, but I guess Mike (who doesn’t do anything in EvE) is the snarky expert on Highsec.

https://roguecorp.space/2022/04/09/an-open-letter-to-ccp/

Mike has not been very happy over the last year. CSM must keep him too busy to drive his bus.

With the huge amount of ratting I’ve been doing lately for PvE practice, I literally visit every belt, etc, in a system, I’ve noticed again and again mining ships being attacked by npcs and putting up zero defence. When one is ratting for hours on end in mining areas, it is very clear that a portion of miners are AFK. …and its the same ones every day.

I retract any earlier statements denying AFK miners. Only by ratting entire systems is it evident ( just as it probably is to gankers ) there most certainly is a core of AFK miners. I don’t think it’s quite as large as some make out…but it definitely exists. I have zero sympathy for anyone playing AFK.

Hm this sounds almost exactly what I once said but Cilla was insistent that personal experiences don’t matter when it comes to this.

Great, I am also accepting apologies for treating fellow forum goers like crap instead of listening to them…

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Oh…I got someone to bear a grudge for 7 whole weeks. I must be doing something right.

More like, I’m confused in observing the ways you grow, and the ways you remain hypocritical. Just showing the kind of player you are.

But go ahead and flatter yourself, the forums were needing another ego.

What is more ‘egotistical’…someone admitting they were wrong, or someone else who just has to rub it in ? I suggest publishing the astounding revelation of ego in Eve in a Nature paper titled ’ What Bears Do In The Woods '.

two things about this line

  1. what makes you think that I do not play the game?

  2. So you would add an hours played per week requirement to the CSM term? Play this much, do this activity, or lose your seat?

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It’s nobody, not no body.

Now I’m you. Lot’s of fun playing grammar Nazi on an international forum, innit?

Mr Epeen :sunglasses:

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You know, I don’t hold grudges. You are forgiven your ignorance, and may you find a miner so disgustingly AFK and botlike that you cannot help but gank it asunder.

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It’s more like what reason do I have, to think you do play the game? I’ve asked around, I’ve asked you, I’ve wondered and come to the conclusion that you are just a nice guy who runs on the “poor newbies need better retention” ticket. Never been a supporter of that party, to be quite honest, I think all new players need to die. Ya know, like you could be flying a big Magic Gankbus bowhead around Highsec, dunking on hapless miners and wardeccing athanors, but I just don’t get that impression from you. I’m going to chalk you up in the “doesn’t really even play the game” category.

Obviously not, I just wouldn’t consider you credible when discussing game balance. I would blatantly roll my eyes, whenever you try to snarkily debate me, and I would urge anyone who agrees with you to question whether you are just jumping to conclusions (based on emotional assumptions about what you think is best for new players). I know what’s best for them - shoot them all, and be glad if one of them turns out to not be a whiny baby.

I mean, like honestly Mike, I’ve heard a lot of association connecting you and the New Player Experience. I look at the new New NPE, and I see some hookygooky roleplay nonsense which has nothing to do with the reality of EvE. I’ve told you before, the NPE should have newbies getting ganked, and urging them to gank. Whatever you are encouraging CCP to do, is just leaving new players wholly unprepared for the reality, that they are definitely gonna gunked on. I guess you don’t like it, but that’s the reality of the game.

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Truth hurts.

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i agree
where do I sign ?
new players are annoying ,they need to learn to tango to enter the dance floor
the ones that keep playing and don’t go around telling lies about the game are baptized and them they earn the deserved respect

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If this is true then why does it always cost me ISK everytime you disapprove of my intentions?

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