You’ll be back. I’ve quit eve about 3 to 4 times due to financial and RL reasons, maybe more times than I can recall. But that’s not the point.
The point is, if you do come back you’ve just painted yourself a bigger target. Even if you biomass yourself.
Best of luck and May the Salt die with your in game character.
Taking stupid risks is no better than avoiding risk. What you are for some reason applauding as risk takong behavior is actually stubborn obliviousness.
Read the op again. A player with 80 losses made a quitting post because OTHER PLAYERS are a-holes.
If he didn’t have the average carebear mentality (which is ,again ,to blame others and not ever learn from ones mistakes), there would be no post. He would be too busy learning how to play better than to post here.
Face it, you have the bleeding heart syndrome that makes you feel sorry for dumb people and which also makes it where you hated it when people tell those people blunt truths.
Like I said. People like you think you are helping by dping what you do, but you aren’t, you are reinforcing their bad thinking, which will only lead them to morw pain and frustration down the road (in this game or even if they just leave).
As if they go anywhere near lowsec…
Only thing where I have ever seen a really noticeable player drop was when they disallowed broadcasting actions.
(And when they fucked up local) :>
Agreed.
Pfsh. Some people (like the OP) take this game too seriously.
More than ever, devs are releasing games with “Ironman” mode. Because permanent loss can make games more fun. If you want EZ mode, then perhaps consider Runescape.
I don’t understand the lack of a cloak, but he was operating as a non-PvP player in lowsec and tough lowsec at that which means he was not an average carebear, he was taking risks. I am not arguing with you that those risks were sensible, I actually agree with you, but I disagreed with that other guy calling him an average carebear, that is about as wrong as you can get.
I was respecting him for actually taking risk, I repeat I never said anything about taking stupid risks. I knew a number of people who operated in lowsec and make a lot of ISK, and once they lost a couple of carriers and Orca’s, but they more than made up for that in very quiet systems.
Hold on step back a bit, if you have someone who decides to hunt you and stops you from operating then you do get fed up. I had some Japanese player decide to set up Citadels around my entry point for my PI and was camping it like mad, so I had to use a BR rather than a DST, got a bit tedious.
I was merely respecting the fact that he took risk and my post was also aimed at the guy calling him an average carebear which is way off base. You are putting your own words and misconceptions on me and telling me that I think something that I do not, which is normal for these forums.
Well people I have taught how to play the game tend to do very well, you have no idea about me and the people I have interacted with, but you tend to listen only to your own voice and feelings.
If the OP wants to talk to me then I would be very open to help him because a risk taker like him gets at least a part of what makes this a good game. I went through his mining barge fits and he tried different tactics, but something that works against a Catalyst does not work against a Proteus for example, or a BLOP’s drop, he had it all, it is there on his killboard.
For people to sit there and look at the lack of the cloak and define him for that when I see warp core stabs, ECM on mining ships. Take Viator | Jean-Marc Lepelletier | Killmail | zKillboard as a loss of a BR, he met some people who are very good obviously, you might go off on the fact that with three cargo expanders it was too slow to warp but we are talking about lowsec and I got a BR past those guys with three cargo expanders many times . Are you really that shallow that you will focus on the lack of a cloak on a DST that was fast aligned with warp core stabs with +5. So that player obviously set up to get him and in the end that annoyed him enough, he most probably had the same thing happen multiple times in many areas by looking at his killboard.
As I PvP, I would blow them up, but he does not PvP.
I think it is a pity that he is leaving the game as he is a risk taker who was trying different things. And if you want to call him dumb without thinking through and checking his fits and attempts then go ahead. He is not a min/max player like you, perhaps that is what you define as dumb. But I was mining in lowsec for certain ores for fun at one point.
Anyway…, step back and look it it in more detail and think about prespective a bit.
I have a question for you, you are a min/max player, so when carriers could use sentries and got better ISK per tick using sentries did you carrier rat with sentries? I stuck with fighters and accepted a lower tick, in terms of ISK per hour, but I never lost a carrier when all around me people were losing them like mad… Be honest did you min/max it? I saw that as a stupid risk…
Dude, two words: Red Frog.
Seriously, I have an account that is just an indy toon. That’s all she does (yes, a female character because if I’m crabbing I want eye candy) and I think the most she has in weapons is Light Missiles V. If I want stuff moved, I use Red Frog and if it moves through low/null then it’s Black Frog.
You wanna fly shiny ships? Get a combat toon.
Meanwhile, I’ll have Red Frog ship you some tampons for your tears.
-Balder
No loss for EvE, bye.
In case you want to hear it, I’m an producer and PvPer. Knowing all relevant aspects of EvE quite well, keeps my industry activity safe.
It’s trivial to keep yourself reasonable safe in EvE, if you are willing to learn and stop thinking you are special.
Editing…annoying:)
Can we change the title to “quit”?
Then change it again once she asks support to restore his accounts and characters? 
“I’m quitting”… “I done ■■■■■■ up”… “CCPlease”… “Feature request: server rollback for characters”.
My 0.02 isks. Don’t quit over the bad experience just take a break. Bio-massing characters you spent time and money skilling would just be another loss for you. Play skill queue online for a month or so and then come back ready to face the challenge again.
If not. Good luck to you in whatever you decide to do.
Wait, i thought you were killed by a gatecamping super. How did the conversation pivot to hisec ganking?
I agree. I signed up to play EVE because i wanted to afk mine in my rorqual fleet and amass a huge isk fortune. But If im not allowed to do that, whats the point? I also wanted to AFK auotpilot through nullsec with 2000 plex in my cargo, in full safety. But if im not allowed, whats the point in playing this stupid game?
Solution? Remove PVP from this game. No one is allowed to shoot anyone, ever. Infact, remove all weapons and drones from this game. I just want to mine in peace. This game should become a mining and industry simulator.
If this isn’t just some bait thread… then perhaps you did the right thing.
The only way you can stop the toxicity is by countering it, and you have failed at it. And this isn’t the only bad decision you’ve made, but by flying around in low- and null-sec just for PI and in a DST are you not doing what you’ve set yourself out to do. You are not flying a shiny ship nor are you making “space bucks” with this. At best did you try to go the clueless and greedy route - find the highest PI production, be ignorant about possible PvP threats, and … boom, you’ve turned yourself into an nice explosion. When you want to make “space bucks” and fly “cool ships”, but want little PvP then you should have just stayed in high-sec and joined Incursion runners.
Complain all you want, but you have failed EVE. It didn’t fail you, but it gave you all the adversity you could ask for in a good game. Next time try asking for help and read the wikis, or was this your first computer game you’ve ever played?! …
I honestly don’t know how old this picture is, but it speaks for itself and continues to draw an accurate picture of EVE to this day.
But would you call him an average carebear?
64 losses out of 80 in lowsec, and someone calls him an average carebear, the mind boggles…
Perhaps he isn’t an average carebear, but he makes average carebear complaints.
Well said. For some reason Dracvlad is stuck on the phrase “average Carebear”. As if flying stupidly in low sec is somehow more noble than flying stupidly anywhere.
Carebears have no borders. Many low sec, null sec and wormhole players are “average carebears” while some high sec players are (reasonable) risk takers
If you don’t believe that some non high sec people are carebears, I invite anyone to go look at the 25 HUNDRED whine posts in the afk cloaky thread…
So after 64 tries, he still didn’t learn anything XD Kinda just made my point.
Granted, it is a shame to see people like him go from the game, they are without a doubt the easiest targets to shoot at and they pad zkills well (them and credit card warriors).