Your data is only for a system, at a given time, and for the number of orcas in game : it just does not match what you claim, that is of global case, and as an usage of mining.
Therefore your opinion, based on irrelevant data, is irrelevant.
In the end, you want to increase concord timer, for no reason ; and you try to make data go along : that’s hypocrisy.
They are not based on random samples. Otherwise yes that would be totally irrelevant :
“The ice cube melts in my glass, therefore the planet is heating up” … Dude that’s the level of stupidity you are making.
I don’t give a ■■■■. That’s the level of childness that make those forums cancer. You just spread BS just becasue you don’t like someone. FFS I thought Eve was restricted to adult people ?
You are wasting your breath, obviously @Anderson_Geten and @Nevyn_Auscent don’t have enough experience with EVE to remember when it was 1 Orca and 10 Hulks.
They just keep insisting their limited experience is all there is in the game.
To be fair, nevyn doesn’t deny things have changed (he was skeptical i think however, i think my data has made him, maybe not reconsider but, less skeptical…).
He just doesn’t believe the orcas abilities and how we use them are detrimental to the game.
Anderson is a data nazi, if there is such a thing.
This isn’t BS, though it’s way off this topic, and it comes alongside a bunch of other changes I want to see to Industrials/Miners, but Daichi is right that I do want to see the Concord timer increased, but it’s very conditional, and doesn’t match this threads desire to see it increased with no other changes.
As for the rest of it.
The problem isn’t that you used a sample, well it sort of is as your sample is so tiny and has inherent biases in it, but eh. It’s that your data isn’t related to your claims that AFK play is an issue & that Orcas bring too much ore in as a result of AFK play.
All your data shows is that ‘Some people use Orcas to mine’. Which I am saying I don’t see as an issue, Orca as a miner has it’s weak points, as a pure solo miner it’s probably not ‘too’ weak, but that’s because a pure solo miner isn’t getting any boosts and even then I can make a retriever which before boosts mines as much as an Orca, probably more due to less reliance on drones & therefore travel time inefficiency.
As soon as you scale to 2 ships, an Orca is clearly weaker than other options to mine with regards to yield, so eh, if someone wants to take a weaker option to not have to warp as often, then why does it harm the game?
When it comes to the 6 hours afk game play, that could harm the game if it was widespread yes as it could cause Orcas to also bring in far more ore proportionally than they should be, but your data has nothing in it which remotely shows afk or not gameplay. Nor how much ore is being brought in per ship class.
And I already gave what I feel is a much better solution to this than a Concord timer increase or a yield decrease.
N.B. I think the entire ORE line actually needs a progression revamp, so it moves more like a single pirate or precursor line and the Orca comes at about the T2 Battleship level of training & progression, rather than being able to train straight into an Orca and ignoring the barge, and this would also likely have a significant impact on how many we see, because I would guess a lot train into it since it’s actually faster to train an Orca fully than a Barge with all the skills needed for the crystals.
That’s with no/minimal changes to the current hull abilities note, just what level of training is needed to get into them.
The same as obvious. The trashes that somehow managed to fail something my dog can do, literally the easiest possible thing in eve online (suicide wanking), and cry for changes so that they can do something a dog can do without failing.