I try to keep fits under 400 milions. Or at least around that value. Thats why no faction web on Eagle fit. It is already over 400 with faction AB. And since it is cap stable without implant, I tryed to utilise the 603 place to fix largest issue I personally would have with it - lack of speed. But there is no limits for bling, if anyone want to risk, Feder. Navy Web will surely make a difference. Even with short range weapons like blasters are.
Acolytes are there because I do not use them for dps but for reducing agro from NPC. Swarm tends to chase my quick and small acolytes, so large portion of it stays away from my ship. I have time to kill few drones or frigates who are still with me, then recall acolytes to get me another batch of rogue drones for kill. Unbonused drones will not do that much damage anyway, even augmented hobgoblins. Simply because most of the time they spend flying toward me or from me. Or sitting in bay.
A-type medium shield? Sure, but deadspace shield modules are already too expensive and their price keep raising. I better not rely on themā¦ You are right of cause. It is just it would costs more than a half of entire ship + fitā¦
ok, but then donāt put my name down by it as its kinda misrepresenting that fits im trying to shareā¦
the reason I use the cap implant is to give that additional defense against neuts that i dont get cause of using RF cap battery rather than thukker cap battery. A lot of thought has gone into the fit i use. Hence why i would like it to be properly represented. 3% speed isnt going to make head nor tails in terms or range control or speed tank. but the neut defense (cap recharge rate) just might.
Personally on TQ i will be using a 50m isk fed navy web. utilising the faction drones I use is an essential part of the fits dps, when using Null ammo (which is mostly always loaded due to the 14km range (which nicely fits with the fed nav web range - see its all thought throughā¦)
Again the fit is optimised to survive 90+ % of the time doing tier 4+ filaments.
also why:
Rather arbitrary, esp when discussing fits designed for high end content. Also you will not get the fit + drugs + implants + hull for 400m! more like 600m (even with the fit you have posted above).
Are you using also EM-803 implant to help your capacitor?
400 milions for ship and fit plus 100 milons for implants, ammo and rest - I think 500 milions is the border, where many PVE players will decide to take a risk. For casual mission runner it is about 10 hours of missioning worth of ISK. One should decide whee to stop in blinging fit and for me it is half of a bilion.
no. that additional damage of Zainou āDeadeyeā Medium Hybrid Turret MH-803 stacks with Eifyr and Co. āGunslingerā Surgical Strike SS-903 without penalty so i use both of those.
Fair enough, thatās your cohice. well ive used a 1.2bn isk loki to farm the besieged covert research facilities and made billions. its about what you are willing to risk.
short of buying in jita youād be hardpressed to get an eagle and full fit for 400m isk
And I used 2 bilions ISK loki to farm sleepers (check the killboard )ā¦ There is a difference between risk in WH or low sec and almost inevitable lost of the PvE ship due to socket close or impossible spawn. If I make 100 Milions per Abyss and got killed in 6-th one : I am at 0 ISK after 2 hours of the intense PvE. Well, you get an idea. We need to know reward table to make exact limits but we should start somewhere and for me 500 is a round number
True. the all or nothing nature of abyssal pockets makes the risk of the isk investment higher. but also surely it makes the extra bling pay off if it increases survivability.
although if this was to occur im sure you could put in a ticket with CCP claiming the value back surely. as long as you got a screen shot of the socket closure message (like the one that pops up on macs when it disconnects like it does every 4 minutes)
But for me when thi content hits TQ its not about isk/hour profit im making. its about accessing those ships, bpcs, skill books and modules etc.
true. has anyone got a muninn fit btw? seems to be the least talked about HAC so far.
That all sounds very dire indeed. I fear that CCP decided to plan those abyssal space tier 4-5 pockets around enchanted a-c type mods to be able to complete them.
Need to check if the higher tiers got more difficult in the last two weeks but I fear the worst.
I thought Iād take this in a slightly different direction: HICs. They have a higher resist profile, more power grid and capacitor. The warp disruption field generator doesnāt work (25km scram wouldāve been sweet) but this also frees up an extra high slot for a T2 small tractor beam for looting (or a vampire, but Iām not sure how effective these would be).
Iāve been playing around with a Phobos thatās pushing 650 DPS @10km with implants and boosters (around 500 DPS @22km). I successfully ran one F4 filament with it using an ancillary medium armor repairer and T2 fit, but died on a second attempt due to a bad spawn.
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Assault Damage Control II
Co-Processor II
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Pith A-Type Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
Acolyte II x5
Eifyr and Co. āRogueā Navigation NN-603
Eifyr and Co. āGunslingerā Motion Prediction MR-703
Eifyr and Co. āGunslingerā Medium Projectile Turret MP-803
Inherent Implants āLancerā Gunnery RF-903
Rather expensive one, for low tank as it hasā¦ But due to tracking bonus even larger autocannons has over 50 tracking with faction ammo. Shorter falloff, speed is about 860 m/s, so you probably can line up 990 m/s drones in T5, but will have problems with 1500 m/s rogue drones, even with overheatā¦
dont have the gank to go with the tank. you can either fit them to have the tank they need. in which case generally they have less than 400ish dps or for gank and then their tank sucks. i had hoped given the 20% resists role bonus that they would have a place in this content but they just done. which with regards to the fact that they are specialist interdictors isnt a bad thing tbh. they just dont hvae the gank+tank of HACS and lack that reliability that comes from the ADCU panic button.
But the ADCU is kind of a āget out of jail free cardā you only get to use once. RLML fits are probably averaging just over 500 DPS with reload time factored in. 650+ DPS isnāt enough āgankā for up to F3 filaments?
If he gets impossible spawn and pulls the plug, he will get socket closed too. I dont think CCP will reimburse any ships. They can always say It wasnt their fault someone socketed out, server stable = not our business.
)ā¦ There is a difference between risk in WH or low sec and almost inevitable lost of the PvE ship due to socket close or impossible spawn. If I make 100 Milions per Abyss and got killed in 6-th one : I am at 0 ISK after 2 hours of the intense PvE. Well, you get an idea. We need to know reward table to make exact limits but we should start somewhere and for me 500 is a round number 
measuringā¦ Letās get back to discussing ships and fits.