Everything in EVE is easy if you reduce the whole thing to the buttons you have to press and ignore the rest.
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I donât think this is correct (though i havenât done anything like this in a while).
If you are not aggressed when you log out, you will disappear after a minute no matter what.
If you are aggressed before you press log out, you will only disappear after your aggression timer expires. But your aggression timer is what can be restarted indefinitely.
I once had an orca disappear on me despite being scrammed during a wardec because he had logged off as i appeared on grid.
Youâre missing the point here. You can be scanned down and attacked, but that is not a threat if you are not a gank target in the first place. Consider an extreme example of an empty freighter. Yes, they can bump you for lols, but when you log off are they really going to expend a whole gank fleet to kill you in exchange for zero loot drop? I doubt it. Theyâre going to let you go, and save the gank fleet for a profitable target. Keep your value low and you donât get ganked.
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Bingo! They can waste that fleet for a net lossâŚor they can go find an idiot with billions in his cargo hold and gank that and get the loot. From a game theoretic standpoint this is a dominant strategy. If you are getting bumped and have an empty freighter (with reinforced bulkheads) logoff immediately. You might still get ganked, but it is quite unlikely.
Que up the âBut they gank empty freighters toooooo!â whine in 3, 2, 1âŚ
apparently people that make the lowest income in the game are scumbags and should be done away with, lets scrap all pve, mining, and trading and pvp all the time. the only way to make isk will be off the loot of your dead enemies unless they get you first.
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If they are making such low income/rewardsâŚwhy in the heck are they taking such enormous risks?
I love being told ganking is easy and cheap by some guy whos to ashamed (or scared) to link his gank chars. 
Iâm going to take a good guess and say hes either some guy who ganks ventures in NOL or one of those antigankers who kills Jasons herons or activates our 250mil suicide point killrights all day 
hahahaha
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Ganking in High Sec is for those who like the ISK that they can get ganking that is then funneled to Null Sec Top Tear Alliances who donât want to mine or rat or run missions but just want to kill something that causes grief to a real person.
Um, so behind CODE. itâs pretty widely viewed that miniluv is a scourge on highsec, so:
- Bounties (directly related to ratting):
- Mining (directly related to well mining):
Running missions in sov null is kind of difficult given the lack of mission agents in sov space, but those graphs kind of show a few holes in the statement.
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Facts and data has never stopped @DrysonBennington before, why should it now?
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because someone has to build the ships and equipment in this game, be a something if industry could just stop for a while and watch markets dry up, but in some hubs thatâs already a logistics reality.
And if we had unicorns thereâd be no pollution and the world would be a wonderful place. 
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Many player studies have shown ganking is a very small % of HS attrition.
I (personally) regret true noobs being a target of some of those ganks, but its the nature of EVE, and other stats seem to show it might even help new player retention. Iâm not a fan of farming tears from noobs, I would prefer profit, but salt is a valuable commodity in EVE for some, and some cant get it elsewhere cos they lack the smarts/capacity to go after more established players.
Over all the years Ive been on these boards, Im still surprised by how much forum time ganking gets. Imo, its completely disproportional to the actual rate of ganks in HS.
I have deduced 3 probable reasons for that:
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Gankers alt trolling boards for fun, and attention. (We all know this happens, albeit less of late). Especially the salt-mining types. Often they then troll their own OP alt, and anyone else that bites the bait, to stir the pot even further. Sometimes they introduce multiple alts to keep the thread bumped and drop some more bait.
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Players that broke the Golden Rule, deliberately, though they knew better, and ended up losing a ship/cargo they cant afford to lose. Instead of blaming themselves, its easier on their ego to blame âgankingâ. Its part of the Kubler-Ross model for dealing with incontrovertible loss as denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. (The first three stages specifically).
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Players that truly never understood the PvP nature of EVE, and cant fit it into their heads that this is not WoW, and HS is not Goldshire. They have never played anything like EVE, and lack the understanding/experience to understand what happened to them, and why. They are angry EVE and HS are not what they thought, ergo: angry at their own false expectations/ignorance, and project that onto demanding EVE to change to what they, falsely, expected. Ie: " I wasnt wrong about EVE! EVE is the one that is wrong!"
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Do you even have an example of this where it is not just some wild assumption but a verified fact?
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Sure.
You are doing it right now.
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So you say you have solid evidence that the OP is a ganker alt?
No, I did not say.
I do however have evidence you are a ganker.
And one that likes salt.
So you donât have an example of this?
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I do.
You.
Lolwat
You have no cohesion whatsoever in your replies
Itâs pretty funny to see
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