Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation. Look it up and its wars. That is all
4 Likes
Just go and join null/low sec or WH entity, mate. And donāt bother with that BS.
Because theyāre there and itās amusing?
5 Likes
It does such losing corpmates to things. Itās also important to note that people leave EvE for a variety of reasons. Iāve brought probably a dozen peeps to EvE, yet, only 1 has stayed and he barely plays. EvE simply isnāt for the faint or the ADHD consumed. EvE is a constant long term strategy that forces you to take destruction into your calculations. Thatās what makes EvE more realistic than other games, honestly. Look at games like WoW, entire areaās where PvP combat simply cannot function and there exist no mechanical reason for that. It just isnāt allowed and the developers were too lazy and too unimaginative to give a credible reason why.
1 Like
Come on little guysā¦whats the sayingā¦Where thereās a will thereās a wayā¦
Real talk hereā¦Donāt let the blanket war deccers deter you from playing there really is a way for you to do what you want. You must go on a quest and seek out new techniques and play styles, believe me, youāll find Eve online is a game of epic proportions once you further your knowledge and develop new perspectives.
Iāve seen lots of newbros become very good at pvp, I smile when I think back to how we all cheered on comms when things went our way the thrill of victory is like no other game. Eve is a great game and I would strongly advise newbros to at least try some level of organised team orientated pvp with persons who are enthusiastic and positive about the game before you decide to leave.
2 Likes
Riddle me this; What chance does a player with low skill points, little isk to spare, and little to no practical combat experience in a T1 ship has against a veteran player with years of skill points, isk to spare, years of combat experience, and a blinged out, optimized T2/T3 ship with millions to billions in implants to further increase combat performance? If your answer is anywhere above nil, youāre nuttier than me.
Theyāre not gonna learn anything from the encounter other than they simply donāt have the skills or the isk to stand a chance of fighting back. This was by far the biggest frustration I personally experienced when I was dealing with wardecs as a low-skilled player. I couldnāt really fight back because I didnāt have the capabilities to do so. All Iād be doing is feeding the pirate kills and giving them an excuse to incur more wardecs against my corp. Today I have the experience, the skills, and the isk to put up a good fight, but not back as a lowly T1-only pilot.
Your other suggestions? Pirate alliances arenāt known for their openness to ānegotiationā beyond bribing them an exorbitant amount of money to stop a war-dec, and then itās just a guarantee that another wardec will happen since they know that corp will dish out money to them. EVEās notorious reputation for backstabs will guarantee that newbie corps arenāt gonna trust random corps to not come back and kill them later, plus charge a huge sum of money the corp wonāt have. The alliance option is viable but depends if the corp wants to risk sacrificing the freedom from being a freelanced corp. NPC logi is a cancer that needs to die and the open sore showing the flaws of the entire wardec system, reforming a corp is plain stupid, and moving a corp will only go so far.
1 Like
A reason why so many newbies form their own corps out-of-the-box, get wardecced, get frustrated, and leave is a direct result of EVEās notorious reputation for spies, cold wars, and backstabs involving little to no retribution. Newbies feel they canāt trust anyone to not steal from them. They stay in NPC corps or form their own corp for that feeling of security that their hard-earned stuff isnāt gonna be stolen by some sociopath with evil in his mind.
While bittervets know how easy it is to gain (and lose) their hard work, newbies tend to be much more cautious and wary of what people say or do, and that has everything to do with the rather toxic culture that EVE has developed. Itās one of the big reasons (along with the game being too 'complex 
) that Iāve had friends deny requests to play the game with me.
1 Like
Iāll attempt to answer this.
One could find other pilots who are in the same position and simply try to be friends. We could expand our circle with many like minded people who have a cool and relaxed vibe. A player and his low skill point friends could find ways of avoiding these players and still earning (Use an alt in NPC corp) while they are earning they could train skill points and learn more about the game.
There are people who can show you how a group of low skilled players can take on veterans and show the group how to win in terms of isk loss vs enemies isk loss. Try to realise that as long as youāre working with others in an organised fashion it will make you much harder to beat.
My perspective is there is no reason why a group of organised new players canāt mobilize a t1 fleet which is well tanked, and has logistics and ECM.
Kato, may I ask youā¦Are or were you prepared to listen to others ? It would be cool if we could have an honest convo so we can identify where the problem lies and work on a way to proceed and make the problem better.
1 Like
I agree that a single veteran pilot who knows what heās doing can turn a rowdy bunch of inexperienced players into a dangerous weapon. Iāve seen it before in other games such as Planetside 2; A platoon of random, low-experienced players lead by a veteran platoon leader and four veteran squad leaders stopping a superior enemy force dead in their tracks.
There are two potential problem that a group of organized new players face when deciding to fight a superior equipped foe. The first, and obvious one, is experience. Unless they have a FC who knows what heās doing, the first engagements will be sloppy as best, and a disaster at worst. That normally wouldnāt be a problem, but then the second issue will reveal its ugly head; money. A bunch of newbies arenāt exactly going to have the isk to afford a bunch of losses.
Back when I was a newbie, I didnāt have the fortune of having an experienced pilot willing to show the ropes or conduct any type of training. But I was always willing to learn anything I could. I didnāt want to just get by. Iāve always had that will to win, that competitive edge you often see in FPS players. When I started living in my first wormhole, some of the pilots there were willing to teach me with practical training how to fight, and the amount of knowledge I gained from that is something I canāt ever fully repay. Itās saved me numerous times and gained me as many kills.
2 Likes
The corp that Noragen mentioned above is a good example of this, PIRAT had them under wardec, some others did too; they got experienced FCās, considerable SRP and decent tuition from an unlikely source, an outreach program from the crime and punishment forums including alts that would normally be regarded as spais.
Yes, its pretty close to nil.
Thatās why its not advisable for such a player to start a corp, and instead join one that can help you learn/protect you.
Bigot!
No such thing as natural selection in human society. We care for those who canāt do it themselfs, we didnāt leave our elders in snow to die, we donāt throw deformed children from the rock or to the wild animals. Humans donāt undergo natural selection anymore.
1 Like
maybe stop with āWoW babyā; because WoW do success more than EvE.
WoW is also specifically tailored to primitive minds and people who need it easy. OF COURSE it is successful!
2 Likes
We really should start over again with natural selection might actually have more food and have less babies growing into age 40 wanting their hands held in everythingā¦
Eve started off as a hard game focused around a PvP sandboxā¦ It should stay the way it was made.
2 Likes
Wow babies lack the balls to tough it out like the rest of us, to find the best in the fedo and exotic dancersā¦ To finally figure out that there is more to life then just being a boring miner working for an honest wage, if you want that go live lifeā¦
You donāt you say? You want to play a spaceship game based around the principals of scamming, thieving, lying, espionage and Piracy thrive??? Eve online is the longest living game for this and the rest of the people like me will be damned if you dare make it your panda loving WoW.
So next time your baby get sick you wonāt give it medicines? While I agree with hands held problem itās not about natural selection itās social thing.
it never drifted from that concept. In fact, most of the players that stayed more than 6 months were already EvE selected.
Are you implying Iāve not already thrown a kid to the wolves or that I have a kid?
I believe if the child gets sick kick it outside and make it fend for itselfā¦
So the next that you get sick I take it you will run and hide so no one will throw you outside?