60 days unless the Rookie engages in pvp combat. I nearly left because I wasnt even in for 30 days and got ganked in a wardec⌠3x. Not a good way to introduce the game to a new player who has no idea what Nos is/does or what scrams and disrupts are or even how to protect against them.
I quit for the remainder of the dec time.
Side note: I also decided to run a second account that isnt associated with a player corp so I could continue to play and say (middle finger) to the PvP til I have the skills to do something besides run.
Not only that, new players resume that protection instantly with one click to leave their corp, as can frankly anyone else who has had enough of a war.
Trouble is you strike me as the shouty type, Charles. Unfortunately that doesnât go down well if youâre trying to stay under the radar and not attract attention to yourself.
In my experience quiet ignorance and smarts nearly always means that people donât bother you again.
If youâre not feeding kills or going off like a salty baboon in local itâs no fun for them and theyâre unlikely to return.
Just to back up everything Omar just said: If youâre a filthy casual hisec carebear (like me) then you should be setting known gank corps to terrible standing and keeping an eye on local anyway - so the switch from baseline attentiveness to wartime attentiveness shouldnât really be that big a jump.
If youâre not doing baseline attentiveness, then start doing it and maybe you wonât get ganked so much.
Itâs not a guarantee, btw. Suicide gankers can just go out of corp, or they might not be a member of a big gank corp or alliance. So DScan still doesnât hurt.
Basically, get used to doing all this stuff in HiSec anyway and the switch to wardec wonât be as scary.
Iâm gonna go with ânoâ on this one.
If youâre in a player corp then you run the incumbent risks of being in a player corp, regardless of your age.
Thatâs just how it goes. If youâre not comfortable swimming in the deep end, stick to the shallows until you are.
Also, age. With the introduction of skill injectors, thereâs really no metric for determining whether a new character is a wide eyed newbro freshly hatched in to this dark world, or the alt of some decade plus aged bittervet⌠unless you cut them in half and count the rings; ie, check how shitty their fit was from the killmail.
I occasionally see three week old marauder pilots derping around in space.
Should I leave them be because theyâre âyoungâ?
I donât think so.
For all I know, theyâre alts of a player whoâs been here ten years or more.
If not, it still doesnât matter.
To this day I still get the mad tinglies when I see a faction battleship in space and d-scan confirms theyâre using faction drones. This is a giant green flag to me indicating someone who has more money than sense.
It would be wrong to not try to liberate them of one in order to instill the other.
I know that in RL or in other games you would by default assume that a young character is truly a newbie.
Itâs just how most of cyberspace rolls.
However, we have to keep things within the scope of what EVE is.
Everyone is a scammer. Nothing is true. Until verified otherwise a person is almost certainly a spai.
Paranoia is the rule of law.
This is why we cannot assume that a young character is a true newbie when we see them. In fact, the opposite should be the common sense in EVE.
Because of injectors you must assume that any new character you see is actually the alt of some ancient character whoâs taking a new approach to the game.
Things like NPC corps and rookie systems already provide a substantial umbrella for the novice player; to take matters beyond that would simply be invoking Malcanisâ Law to itâs fullest.
To be blunt, it appears that youâre not willing to put in the effort or use the tools required to be left to your own devices.
If you donât want to play someone elseâs game, itâs up to you to avoid their gameplay; wardecs are trivial to avoid with options including the use of alts, jump clones, dropping to an NPC corp etc.
Your safety in Eve is your responsibility, own it.
Admittedly wardecs are long overdue an overhaul with fewer groups actually using them than in the past, any overhaul may actually make wardecs easier to access. Theyâve already been revised in the past with that aim, although it didnât work as well as they hoped.
I doubt an overhaul would stop threads of this nature appearing on the forums regularly either, because for some people anything that interferes in their desired gameplay is too much.
Most of the main wardec corps have been reduced to degenerate hub humpers because one of the most useful tools in their toolbox was changed to pacify some folks in nullsec, which is one of the factors that makes them trivial to avoid.
Stop being so petty and letting your prejudice show through the veneer.
Iâm open about what I do, and Iâm open about how I have managed to not appear on any killboard since the creation of this character.
Everything I posted is true, the source being myself doesnât make it any less so.
I find your attempt to belittle me based on my lack of killboard amusing, despite my post not actually being about prosecuting violence on others, but avoiding the violence altogether.
It says more about you than it does about me.
As for my bio, itâs probably something from Blackadder, most of the past bio entries are.
You misunderstand, I am suggesting that people follow the same tactic as you have, it is obviously very successful. Zero war decs in the 4 years and 7 months of your corps existence, that must be a damn record for a hisec corp. In truth I am in awe at your ability to avoid wars at the starting block.
Now that I would respect you for, bloody awesome seriesâŚ
In that case, my apologies. Iâll take it as a backhanded compliment
I stay under the radar tbh, and try not to be an easy kill. Admittedly I have friends in âlowâ places but I have no doubt that they would shoot me in the face given the opportunity; especially Ralph, he wants my corpse for his trophy cabinet.
My game is survival, Joe Bloggs making his way in a dishonest world. That how I see Eve correlates with that of others who partake of the more PvP orientated activities is part of that; if I didnât accept the game for what it is, a brutal bitch where itâs you versus the Universe, and every evil git in it, I would have left long ago.
It is excellent what you have done, and it is in fact a back handed compliment.
Eve is a brutal game and I agree that it is the attraction for me too. But I had never realised that you have never had a single war dec, that is just incredible. Honestly I am in awe at that and I am not being snarky, that is a real achievement.
Funny watching non-working class English insult each other.
They cant drop a degree of formal politeness.
You can tell how angry they are, by how erect their little finger is when they take a sip of tea.
(No offence intended Bong-bros. Grats on Royal wedding this day.)
Actually my roots are very much working class, but I sometimes let my little finger rise to the occasion when supping on a cup of tea, but I do prefer mugs? Though I do have some fine bone china cups.
I hope that Prince Harry will have a profound effect on the corrupt cesspit that is Hollywood, there are still lots of Weinstein type people there and if Harry who is a real gentleman can create a change in attitude there, then who knows how things will developâŚ
PS Kate is the real change in the royal family and she is utterly adorableâŚ, Meghan just adds to that.
PPS I watched the ceremony, I liked the American Priest for his passion, and that Gospel choir was outstanding. Very nice dress too, though my wife thought it too plain, though as it was made in France my wife is not being patriotic.
This thread now has 760 comments. I read the first few and some rather abrasive stuff. So Iâm just going to add my own rant to it. I hope nobody minds.
Anyhow, Johnt, you have my sympathies simply for sticking around. There are no âsafe zonesâ to build up corporations. It has a lot of corporations already and the smallest sit at the bottom of the food chain. They are the stepping stones for others as they all try to rise to the top. You can see only by the responses there is a lot of competition and negativity. This you have to deal with. To build up a new corporation there do you need to have exceptional players obviously. Itâs not going to work with casual players as youâve seen yourself.
If youâre still willing to get into corporations and into managing them then find one, which already has a good member count. Keep minding others as youâve already shown, and you wonât have a problem in making yourself a new home together with others. Take this thread and its many responses as a reflection of all the types of players one can find in EVE and book it under âa valuable experienceâ, because these are the types you will have to manage in a corporation one way or another.
Once youâve found yourself a new home and have met âthe othersâ ask your friend to resub and to join your corporation after youâve made sure itâs the kind of corporation you and and your friend want to be in.
I enjoyed 99.87% of it to the max - the other 0.13% wasnât so bad either. We sure made some good friends along the though way didnât we??
I still remember finding Ralph shiptoasting on the old Forums railing away on some poor sot right after 3-4 bold Legion losses (feckinâ LOLLLLL) and thinking to myself âHmmm, I bet I can fix this!â ⌠and we did fix Ralph (mostly) among other things Honestly our entire crew is/was amazing and Iâm genuinely glad weâre friends.
I owe most of Lordsâ success to Raz, Tearz, Venree and Feyd (RIP)⌠without their tolerance of our shenanigans or the sage space wisdom they shared with us it would never have lasted as long as it did. Iâm also kinda proud that it took an act of development from the Space Gods to shut us down rather than another player group laying waste to Devils.
Even in a moment of vulnerable inactivity we still managed to roflstomp the shite out of PIRAT - Iâm proud of us and every current and former Devil should be too.
It doesnât have to be over though⌠the Jedi Mind Trick still works; myself and another new Devil (yes, you read that correctly) gangbanged a few mission runners⌠3x in a row actually kekekeke and then after that we held a ship/pod for ~2hrs in local while telling stories and sharing fireworks with the unwashed masses. It was fun.
Ultimately, in my opinion, itâs okay to be jaded, bitter and burnt out if thatâs what you want for yourself. Those that fail to adapt will fall to the wayside and wither on the vine making room for new growth.
On that note, Lords is recruiting alphas and omegas for low-stress fun and excitement. Feel free to message me in game or app directly to corp with a brief introduction and outline of what youâd like to accomplish in Eve.
Thereâs fun to be had, idiots are afoot and evolution always wins.
Honestly our entire crew is/was amazing and Iâm genuinely glad weâre friends.