ye i remember the change for watchlists, id just started using wartarg at the time too instead of trawling through eve who and zkill…
It used to be different, but right now I agree. Back in the olden days™ we didn’t need that many wardecs to have fun. People still complained, but that’s just what people do. Just look at me complaining right now. And oh boy did they not know what was coming.
And the current wardec situation is in parts a result of people complaining about highsec mechanics they perceived as unfair, and asking for more security. Wardecs were made more expensive, forcing smaller corps, and younger players out of the business, the crimewatch revamp and increased cargo-space for barges pretty much killed canflipping, which was a fun little solo activity for new players or low skilled highsec alts (if admittedly not the most space-honoraburu one). And the removal of the watchlist pretty much killed wardecs outside of hubhumping altogether. And with this being a sandbox, those people found other means: They bunched together into large hubhumping blanket-dec alliances or turned to outright suicide-ganking.
And while I do not think that hubhumping or suicide-ganking by themselves are bad - quite the contrary - there can be too much of a good thing.
Question is - can this even still be fixed?
no, a lot of us just went to low, null or jspace.
Or to the forums.
Now I want to war deck this whiny brat.
There’s ways to dodge deccs, take s itsy bitsy effort, let them waste their isk.
That wardec was a serious problem and caused great damage to both Eve and CCP. It is time for everyone to be concerned and CCP removes WarDec from HiSec.
That means no structures and no fun.
Pvp is necessary for the real market to work. A real market needs supply and demand. Supply and demand needs both production and destruction. Destruction needs players shooting eachother.
Low sec and null sec isn’t enough. Consensual pvp isn’t enough. Even now production is far out pacing destruction and industry profits are very narrow (they are barely propped up by massive isk generation). You take out non-consensual hi-sec pvp, which is a big portion of the total pvp in the game, and destruction goes down, demand goes down and industry becomes almost worthless (which some have said it pretty much is already)
The general health of the market, and a pvp sandbox, necessitates mechanics like wardecs.
Even the coming ‘fix’ of wardecs against structure owners only is a temporary one. I anticipate that will revert once the real fix comes next year.
Nope.
I’m terribly sorry to see another soul lost in the sea of ignorance. Why is the world so cruel to the small innocent beings, so that they are seduced by such a horrible way of ignorance and loss. I would cry out to every word of your post because you are not guilty of it, it is the wretched environment and the superficial world that has brought a lost being like you. I just hope that light knowledge and knowledge will come to you one day and get you out and lead you back the right path because this your current state is an indescribable tragedy in which you most suffer.
The OP that went out of the game because of a long time mistake that got lost to the original creators of the game I just want to say: There is hope one day when the light comes to enlight New Eden error will be corrected and you will be proud to return.
WarDec will end up in LowSec and NullSec where it is beelong.
Or you could be aware of current news and not necro threads from before the announced changes.
You’re projecting hard.
You realise that when wardecs were more frequent the game had more people playing…
Wardecs are in a bad state now, no disagreement there. But they are necessary. And they even used to be a great way to get new bros into pvp and foster the pvp culture that has allowed this game to last this long.
They were part of why eve grew every year until, surprise surprise, they were nerfed.
Wardec is not in bad shape. WarDec is evil. WarDec’s evil came from the J universe and been sneaking up for a fraud and settled in the beautiful HiSec. WarDec is the evil that has shaken and darkened the eyes and minds of immortal capsules, WarDec is the cause of the lost and lost of the loved ones.
Evil can not be repaired, evil has to be eradicated, we can not talk about how to “repair” WarDec, we can only gather all our wisdom and strength to expel the evil from holly 4 empires
Gobshite.
Dramatic, flailing, innacurate and misinformed gobshite, with tinsel.
Kill all the evil carebears!!!
There is nothing else to talk about on the forums
Mortlake summed it up succinctly.
Gobshite.
War decs are not scary.
They haven’t been since the watchlist was removed and locator agents became obsolete.
There is NOTHING TO FEAR from war. All you have to do is literally fecking MOVE one or two systems away from your home base and BOOM you are practically immune to nasty war people scaring you to death with their redness.
Stop whinging like this is some kind of major inconvenience for you. It’s not that big of an inconvenience to move out of the way of oncoming traffic. If it is for you, then you deserve to be run over. It literally takes only the tiniest bit of effort and awareness to not die in a fire in this game. If that is too much, then you need to bugger off to somewhere else.
Protip, don’t fly down pipes when war decced. Use an alt in another corp to transport your garbage to jita.
Anyhoo…
Totally.
When we advise people on how to avoid us and they still cry, it’s pretty funny.
What really kills MMPORGS is any kind of PVP protection, we older guys remember can remember what happend to Ultima Online after they introduced something called “UO Trammel”
Yes, but the bloodletting that led up to Trammel was GLORIOUS!!
And the tears, people were like “why are you doing this”
Once in history!