By the time carrier dies they’re still reshipping into said loki. No response in the world is making it under 2 minutes. And even if loki is already there, at MOST he’ll wipe out one bomber, usually none, before bombers switch to loki and kill it, or run away. Saving a carrier from blops is simply not possible.
Like what?
Defending is impossible, carrier is dead before fastest response in eve can land.
To all those unsubbing … please can i have your stuff ill make it work hard and if you return ill make sure to give you some isk back 
Best decision ever (by ccp)
They could make concorde go away from high to so the game gets fair on every level.
All those high sec players have solutions for null how to play so they find solution to no concorde safe there ass play to.
Lets all be cowboys! :smiley 
A split fit pve/pvp fitted ship like a dominix or a machariel. A machariel can easily run haven/sanctum and kill off any smaller fleet solo it would be a monster for new null sec.
Although it would probably cost 1.5bil in a few months.
yep. now you have all that empty nullsec all for yourself to roam unimpeded without a single target in it, but you’ll have to set entire supercap umbrella regions to ignore because of titan gatecamps on all entrances.
This I could get behind.
Funny, i seems to recall this being like a huge player requested thing … back in the day when WH-space was introduced.
Clearly you never ratted in your life.
A machariel would get rekt in sanctum and have to sacrifice all its fitting room to not die in a haven. There is not a single chance in hell you can have any type of pvp viability on a ship able to do havens in under 1 hour. We’ve been in this dscussion a dozen of times, and the best fit I’ve been shown was a phoon that had 20% less dps than VNI and no tank to actually survive a haven, and that was the BEST one. It was never possible to begin with, unlike pvp, pve is hard.
Dominix dps is simply so pathetic you might as well blitz L3s in a Drake in hisec making more money. Literally useless.
Plus lol, a dozen bombers would need exactly FIVE SECONDS to burn through pvp fit mach ehp. Nice counter dude, try it, I’ll laugh.
re subbing all my accounts. finally.
If they have a mach scram/webbed sure the whole point is to be extremely hard to be tackled the biggest thing about these 2 ships is you can fit large neuts which will help in getting the tackle off you.
But all this is beside the point, ratting in general is bounty based which stays the same, if people move out of nullsec then all the drops and resources would go up in value so why would anyone do anom’s they would be better off doing other activities such as exploration/mining.
Think they have gone too far myself. Personally think recons and ships with stealth capability should not appear in local but this change puts all the advantages into the attackers favour. I was resubbing but as a solo player this change will make the game not fun as my only options would be hi sec for my style of play (1 account, I don’t bot) so I am going to hold to see if this becomes permanent or if any changes are made to it. I agree eve should always have risk but this makes it too easy for the attacker to get kills.
you could try this thing called D-scan.
Press ‘V’ by default.
Imagine being so naive 
Well looks like CCP is really trying to kill EVE off this time. They have tried their to make Null more appealing to the new player, and are now making it almost impossible for them to want to come down to Null. We already have some of our newest players selling up and going back to High-sec because they feel they will not be able to make any money to survive, But also feel that they cannot compete in null combat because of their lack of skills.
I personally think it is one of the most stupid ideas CCP have had and will probably lead to a large portion of players either moving back to Hi-sec or leaving altogether. This will hit the industry players the hardest as they will have no security to mine in space. Oh too bad I hear you say boohoo the poor miners and industry. BUT !!! remember this where are you going to get your weapons/ammo and ships if no one in null is building them. Yes they can be imported in at a hugely inflated cost to you from Hi-sec. Huge alliances may survive this as they can possibly man choke points to monitor incoming ships, But the smaller ones will fail as they will not have the players on 24 hours a day to do this.
All you would be ship killers out there. For every player that either goes back to Hi-sec or leaves EVE means one les target for you. You might find it very lonely down in Null trying to find victims to kill.
Remember this CCP for every one who leaves the game because of this stupid idea you will loose money. Your player base has been shrinking for years. 10 years ago you could log on and there would be 40-50k players on. Now you are very lucky if you will get half that number. Many of them maybe paid for by plexing. So there is no money there. Others are Alpha account’s, So again no money there either. So perhaps of those 25k of players maybe 15k are actually paying for their eve time. And you want to piss them off and make them leave. A really good financial model NOT.
So CCP I personally think you may have finally managed the BREAK EVE!!!.
Imagine being this bad at EVE.
Imagine not understanding:
Signature Radius vs Torpedo Explosion Velocity/Radius
“just kite them lol”
“Range is anemic” when talking about Ships with massive bonuses to Torpedo range due to Flight Time bonuses and Missile Velocity bonuses
Imagine being this bad at EVE AND still trying to tell people what’s what
Clearly you have never Domi’d
[Dominix, *LRDom]
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Large Armor Repairer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Armor Thermal Hardener II
Large Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Large Cap Battery II
Sensor Booster II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
350mm Railgun II
350mm Railgun II
350mm Railgun II
350mm Railgun II
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II
Warden II x5
Valkyrie II x5
Ogre II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x5
Scourge Cruise Missile x100
Mjolnir Auto-Targeting Cruise Missile I x100
Fusion L x100
Spike L x5483
Scourge Torpedo x100
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L x467
Targeting Range Script x1
Javelin L x3722
It’ll run both Sanctums and Havens with ease that is 711dps with faction ammo and the lowest dps drones in a blank head.
i get the feeling these people unsubscribing have never nor will ever offer anything to eve beyond docking up when pvp is on the horizon. frankly, i don’t think anybody will notice the difference with you gone. good luck on your real life adventures, friends.
i on the other hand will sure as ■■■■ be roaming null a lot more when this happens! woo, pvp!
Just a little informational post for those worried because some people threaten to unsubscribe their 50 character bot fleets:
Do you actually think someone would pay CCP $ for subscribing 50 bots? No, what this means is they will no longer drain 50 PLEX per month from Jita with their botted ISK. This can only be a good thing, it will make it cheaper for actual people to play EVE again.
How many doctrines ships and fits have you personally built for your corporation? Just curious.