We’ll be monitoring what effect this has on the cluster? LMAO, funniest CCP joke this year, knowing you guys, it will break the cluster and we’ll all get “free” SP!
2 Likes
Can you give me a list of a couple of these “smaller and medium groups”? Just like, 2-3 corps/alliances.
I see a LOT of talking on their behalf, but I don’t think I’ve seen much complaining from these groups themselves. This still feels like one of those, “I’m not part of them, but I will be offended for them” kind of issue.
Now were back to players suggesting mechanics changes because they don’t like the current mechanics.
We have got to start understanding this is a role play as local chat is now delayed due to drifter attacks, we should get into character and make the best of it we can.
I think everyone should get into small fleets, get in battlecruisers, establish an intel network and just get on with it. Make it so that whoever is cyno dropping has to spend loads of resources just to kill a battlecruiser, productivity must be maintained.
Many of you are way too rigid in your playstyle and at the first sign of a change you either goto hisec, leave the game or stay docked.
3 Likes
I would like that, but goonturds would commit mass sudoku if this happens.
I was already in hisec, just so you know.
I look at the game play at the more solo activity level which is what Eve really is. The majority of play is actually solo.
Those with attitude will gang up and try to operate and good luck to them, but removing local even if it is based on lore events is still a mechanic change.
The balance is too far in favour of the hunters with cyno’s being as they are with no local. That is it, period.
I know that you can operate in that way, I have operated like you with people actively hunting me in system and you are well aware that I have no issue with operating in this environment if I were to chose to do so. However I am never interested in imbalanced game play, and having this and very risk averse players doing it is just boring. I have had experience of lame risk averse hot droppers in my time.
I would find this fun with a committed hard nosed core group, because I would enjoy the counter drop play. That does add to the game and perhaps if this is permanent more people will step up to that level, I hope so.
One of my main reasons to dislike this is the simple fact that low effort hunters will be able to get a lot of kills which they do not deserve. They can sit someone in a system with a covert cyno, then go and play other games and then when someone does something just log on the BLOP’s with their mates and drop them. It penalises people playing the game and empowers the lazy ganktards.
There are quite a number of them in this thread, but you are too blind to see them.
PS Jir contacted me on Discord today, the guy who was doing Bombers Bar, he told me that it made it too easy and he expected the prey to dry up. He will not be re-subbing…
1 Like
Good bye null-sec local! You will not be missed!
4 Likes
Both sides ? Awww you mean how all the poor nullbears and there botters mite actually lose something hahaha CANT WAIT
2 Likes
nulsec people is now wh people
1 Like
Welcome to PVP 
2 Likes
Still very different but Nullsec dwellers will at least have to earn their place there.
1 Like
At least not as boring as niche part of eve called pvp.
No, that will make null too safe for ganktards.
nullsec miners risk a lot. nullsec gankers don’t risk at all.
If you can’t catch a miner, you’re a terrible player and should be ashamed, because of how easy it is.
But you subbed now because from 99% safety ganks are now 100% safe and that’s the only risk acceptable for you, risk-averse chicken.
You’re not gonna get any because we won’t undock at all though.
No, it’s because campers are chicken. They won’t attack unless they reliably win, and blame nullbears for not feeding them free kills, as if we’re their entertainers. Whiny chickens, those ganktards are. Nullsec should be dangerous for everyone, them included, but if there’s 1% danger, they start whining.
Indeed, pretty sad game balance is so sad they need to give one ganktard absolute safety to get his scared tush into space, otherwise he will be too scared.
eve is not a pvp game, eve is a sandbox game with a niche boring pvp system stapped to the side of it.
Last time I asked idiot who thought it’s possible for a fit, I got a Typhoon fit that couldn’t survive an anom, yet alone a complex, and had less damage than VNI.
It’s been 100% proven impossible and whoever thinks otherwise without solid fit he tried and didn’t fail pathetically in both pve and pvp with is just a wishful thinker.
Unlike pvp, pve is hard. It requires a very specialized ship that has been nerfed the hell out with a clear goal to make it a free kill in pvp, otherwise ganktards who are scared shitless of 1% level of risk won’t attack it.
Nullsec is 99% safe for ganktards now, and will be 100% safe for ganktards during blackout. That’s what all the chicken trashes are excited about - absolute safety is granted to them as substitute to their non-existent skill (which is non-existent because of how easy it was to grab targets and they still couldn’t do it).
And instead it’s been made safe for ganktards. Quite the opposite of what’s needed to be done.
This. Eradicates all subcap life, and puts capitals at risk of being bloc target practice, while blocs and their umbrellas will keep every rorq safe and every idiot educationally bosoned.
They are not pvpers. pvp was available in eve all this time, but this chicken wasn’t even subbed. He only subbed when given absolute safety for ganking, which is not even pvp.
covert cyno can bring hundreds of cloaky ships at no risk, who can then run and cloak like chickens they are, this is undefendable.
…to be a sandbox game, pvp is just one niche system in it, and not even a good or fun one, stop being delusional.
ganktards take no risks, they won’t attack if there’s 1% risk.
Me too. Unfortunately it doesn’t - ganktards are receiving 100% safety.
Definition of participation award right there.
pvp is literally so easy all it takes is being willing, no brain required.
But you aren’t a pvp player anyway, so why do you speak like you know?
Server is live 
lets go get some GF’s!
1 Like
ganking is not pvp, it’s extremely chicken version of pve with no risk attached.
2 Likes
Small groups are always getting used for concern trolling.
Any change people don’t like -> Bad because it hurts small groups somehow (though I’m not in one myself).
Any change people do like -> Just adapt.
Depends if its bait or not but mostly yea, I have a feeling there will be a lot more bait out these days.
Baits are impossible with no intel, and generally do not work even with intel.
First, baits are obvious. Takes a ganktard below 40 IQ to bite, but if he feels 1% risk, he’ll just bail like a whiny chicken all ganktards are.
Second, without intel, you don’t know a ganktard is coming, meaning you can’t set up your bait for him and remove it when he’s gone, but have to sit there 23/7 manning your bait hoping someone bites, which is humanely impossible, not to speak of how “fun” it is.
Third, once you have one bait on killboard, all the chickens are gonna bail upon seeing it, so that’s done with.
1 Like
Ah, so this is basically nothing more than a, “I want to be offended for someone else” thing. Good to know.
I’m hearing WHs suddenly got VERY safe, but I’m not in one so cant confirm.
Edit: False alarm.
1 Like
If you want to read it like that, the same way that you mis-read so many things in other threads then feel free, be my guest, totally NFG!
Zkill has been blacked out, LMAO! Now if Dotlan could remove that other intel stuff and the in game map could remove it too then I would be happier.
No one rally cares what you think, krab. At least gang fleets undock and put out ships on grid.
1 Like