Again…tell it to marshy… if you think all cloaky campers are just “placebos” lol
There are so many potential factors that gnawing at the PCU count right now is practically futile. Just about everything can affect it, up to and including the weather (Hullo, Barry!).
You have people logging in who haven’t for a while, people who are refusing to log in and reeeeeeeeeeing on the forums instead, bots, increased alts for scouting, decreased alts for mining, and we could probably go on like this all day.
I do wish Squizz had at least left some aggregate data up, but it will have to wait until tomorrow.
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Who is marshy? im not familiar with him.
What if drop in online players is due to “cloaky campers” offlining their alts all around null because they serve no sensible purpose anymore?
Think about it.
Just to give you an idea…lol…
Bombers Bar guy, he also has a cloaky camping business. Apperently Esmerelda’s boogieman.
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Thank you for the link
no he’s just an example of how ridiculous some of the statements you all make like being a cloaky camper isn’t a thing…or isn’t an issue…or doesn’t again tip the scales inexorably towards one type of gameplay…
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1 man with 60 alts. jesus that sounds like a lot of busy work.
Does He use the bombers bar fleets to drop on the systems? or does he have more toons then to follow up with ?
It’s because people are flagging them as off-topic, myself included. This is not the thread to discuss “legal” issues you have no knowledge in. Go take that to the relevant threads.
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both, and he’s very good at it. I personally haven’t lost anything to him, but they go after just about anything from barges to capital ships… While running 60 accounts is definitely an extreme example, it does demonstrate how much the cloak imbalances the game, especially when you take out Local and someone can log in with a script right after downtime, go to a site and sit there and make money…
It is relevant about players an the blackout yet most PVP players in eve see information as the F1 10 second window.
including this screenshot
Nerd wins long term.
Not the jock
I think the issue is cloaking camping then. An AFK player shouldnt have the ability to influence a system full of people.
Deployable observation arrays. that interrupt Cloaks every X period of time.
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It’s anecdotal sure, but as a regular on BB fleets I would like to note that the majority of targets are AFK players. Quite a few times people have come back half-way through a gank to respond with some kind of “I just got back” salt.
Lots of times we have to give up on active targets because of response fleets or because the rorq/carrier pilots have teeth and fight back.
This still doesn’t explain the worst sunday since 2006.
I’m actually verifying this by downloading and spreadsheeting eve-offline data for every sunday since Sun 1 Jan 2006 to make my point in solid sunday-peak numbers graph, which we can’t make in eve-offline, right now.
Either people had 16+ accounts in 2006, or this explanation doesn’t hold. And I’m thinking latter.
Id love to see ypu try that with Coca Cola or Sony or Microsoft.
Theyd laugh themselves silly.
So you did pvp just fine and got kills before the blackout, you clearly don’t want active fights because if you did it wouldn’t be “hunting” or at least not ones you know there’s going to be any type of mutual capitulation…
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And you flag it again will post again…
NOT A LEGAL POSTING. THE PLAYERS REACTIONS ARE FROM THE LEGAL EXPLANATIONS
Yet you want to post about your PVP exploits an this is relevant for the reaction to the blackout how this effective the community.
How eve really works an what this null sec blackout have accomplished.
All of eve players are content.
All eve online players matter.
All eve online players interact directly an indirectly.
Blackouting out null i not what the players want by being in null by which this is not an advertised feature for eve online.
Therefore the people protesting are leaving due to the misrepresentation of the product to the content of the desired player type.
There is a loop where the following in my post stated how eve works in the game design.
Yes wormhole groups mine an rat in a wormhole with a manageable traffic influx
I lived in 4 C5 wh for 2.5 years the blackout uneffected me from the player experience
Players which live in null are there for the civilization an the access to content which is not in a WH as the same type a Wormhole group will play eve online within.
Null sec
I have a civilization of my own an these drifter invasion were a pain in the @ $$ of real time because the NPC is a software program that do not need to eat sleep work the software keeps going.
Players is acceptable cotnent however a NPC whch spawns 60 to 100 of them every hour over an over in multiple locations within null sec sov?
Um ok we can deal with an yet the grind is not rewarding to be engaged with the blobs of endless PVE content.
Now the Null sec blackout…
Many areas of null went dark in activity other than the normal players i see repeatedly in the systems.
Which never changed before the black out an not changed during the blackout.
Null sec players WANT TO PVP as well as build develop and socialize together
Intel channels still work an report the enemies including the details of who is piloting an who is in the ships as well as what ships with how many,
Null sec players are not dependent on LOCAL WORKING for the intel support…
Intel support in NULL is accomplished by players all as one large team of allies together as multiple alliances within a region with scouts already in every system long before the blackout.
Therefore the black out effected nothing for the null players other than the players who are the financial core of an alliance which are the ratters. miners , indy NOT the PVP players that is a military content for defense an offensive purposes. Not the primary focus of eve online as the ONLY CONTENT TO HAVE IN EVE ONLINE OR EVERYONE ELSE IS AN IDIOT …
I have played BEFORE THE KILLBOARDS EXISITED Yes we have killmails yet it was a text layout without the pretty icons an back then it never mattered an was shared within other players VIA the access of the EVE MAIL system.
Then one day the online websites for the Killmails was created.
The Killmails were submitted manually then ran a check to the eve online server for validation of the record stored.
Otherwise the killmail never showed up automatically to disclose too much information about an eve player ship type location an so on.
Now we have ESI which now the killmails are 100 percent automated an now the community shift is on the groups which only care about the killboard being ‘green’ or else.
How most groups behave over the kilboard to other players is not always very positive even more so when the player i new to pvp enters null an wants an experienced teacher to train them…
CCP pushing out the veteran pilots with all of the game changes is also removing the veteran teachers and mentors as well as the holders of the large groups the players want to relocate into so as to HAVE THE NULL SEC PVP when not interested into a WH group an gameplay.
Push out on group in a sandbox force into one group type only in a complex system of ecconomics the game will fall off only to one type then unless CCP wants to make this a instant rrespawn spaceship combat game of a real SIMULATION class then this is why many players protest to cancel the subscriptions.
This change is as the same as the Jocks want to push the Nerd into the locker an give them wedgies.
Long term the jock works at fast food or a low tier just over broke ( unless into professional sports an must be exceptionally talented to achieve as a career )
Peer pressure in eve online is what makes the game challenging an therefore not many real humans will not become a simple follower to avoid the conflict.
In the long term within my observation the Jock class players pew pew pew link the killboard then end up broke most of the time very quickly ( unless they also have a PVE alt hmm seems as a contradiction to the Jock PVP ONLY statements. ) ( Secretly a Jock in Nerds clothing? )
The nerd type i have observed tend to have a large stash of in game assets an therefore tend to be in the upper tier of the eve economy player wealth.
In real life the Nerd also tends to be the best at the career choices an at the top of the selected field. Have nice assets in real life where as the jock looks an points with anger hate rage an jealousy for the Jock is the type of person who wants to TAKE FROM others yet not EARN their own.
Null sec pvp is not as the description above
Null sec space is a social community an with local players will socialize with other blues.
Before the blackout players see other blues wave at one another o/ then chat for a bit in local being friendly with one another.
Now in local being dead that social aspect of eve online is gone.
QUOTE:
LOCAL IN NULL SEC SHOULD NOT BE A SOURCE OF INTEL
ANSWER LOCAL IN NULL SEX NEVER WAS THE MAIN SOURCE OF INTEL
PLAYERS ARE THE MAIN SOURCE OF INTEL IN NULL SEC SPACE.
With all of the comments stated with all of the facilities of sources without the Proof Of Source then therefore what we have is a Proof of Speculation.
One career type pressing to gain control over a whole content only without the completed consent of the rest of the eve online community…
Therefore the freedom of choice at which I do strongly endorse per human as the operator for the owner for each eve online account. I support your Boycott an second your decision for the unsatisfactory product performance for the CCP misrepresentation of the services for the EVE ONLINE software.
So far what i am reading in here on the posting is a pattern of the players must not really have a deep understanding an concept for what EVE ONLINE as a game really is…
Yet from the mass misconception for what eve online is about therefore MAY also potentially completely unaware for WHY EVE ONLINE IS SO POPULAR an long lasting where other MMO in most situations have simply ended abruptly .
Keep in mind
TOXIC PEOPLE ARE EVERYWHERE
GOOD PEOPLE ARE EVERYWHERE
both types prefer to group together.
It is all part of what we as humans are.
After all in the real world this is what allows human to adapt an survive
an yet EVE ONLINE IS MAKE BELIEVE not real therefore players which do not want to PAY for a change in the terms of the product services at a the option to cancel the subscriptions then in effect spend the money somewhere else.
The same applies to the players who remain then well will CCP as a Product continue to exist?
Time will reveal all .
Demand answers
Customers in eve online are also part of the business as investors
One account at time per transaction Within the eve online shopping cart.
CCP Your customers demand for transparency
Release to the community the timeline for how long this black out experiment is going to last.
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Solo mining you should be using dscan even if local was available.
No matter what space you’re in its one of the most important tools for spotting others.
Those in wormhole space as many have already said, happen to very good at using dscan and probes. Maybe nullsec players should learn to use this old tool.
again, doesn’t account for recon ships, or cloaked ships…yawn
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