Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread

Hah knew it

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I’m totally fine with this tactic, but most of these adrenaline pumped nerds running through nullsec in the moment are not opponents, just a bunch of seal clubbing hooligans. They have no interest in sov, warfare or domination, they are just gangs of braindead looters.
lowsec is the place where those creeps belong to.

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If you are in Null-Sec i would suggest that you aren’t a ā€˜seal’ anymore.

And its ZERO-Security space, if you mine, do it with some protection.

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Which means they are actually playing the game, not afk farming

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Question doesn’t make any sense since CCP don’t usually fly ships in NS to kill miners.

Sure. But it’s just a waste of time to discuss this with people who don’t have a clue what that means.

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The problem is in Low Sec as well in WH-Space the the other guys will shoot back and probably kill them.

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It seems odd to me that we’re just over six hundred posts from an autolock, but I still haven’t seen a decent discussion on the actual effects this Blackout will have if it persists.

Economical impact.

Bears should truly be rejoicing, because this is about to have a bunch of beneficial effects for them. With significantly reduced botting and afk ratting, you’re going to see PLEX prices drop as demand gets overshadowed by the increased supply from those now dropping plex on the market to fund their rejuvenated PvP endeavors. Reduced DED site farming will significantly increase the price of rarer modules, and reduced ratting in general will reduce the impact of inflation while increased PvP will increase demand for bearing products in general.

This should be a time to fuckin’ rejoice and cheer if you’re a bear. Your activity is suddenly going to be worth something compared to the absolute waste of oxygen and bandwidth you’ve been so far, your competition suddenly became a whole lot fairer and the opportunities for your star to rise are queuing up outside your airlock with gusto and joy de vivre.

For the ratters, this is when actively putting in some effort and skill to run those escalations will start paying off as the markets change. For the miners, this is when getting the PvPers in your social circle to use you as bait will let you still mine in pretty much perfect safety while getting vastly greater returns on your time investment and ores than ever before. Industrialists have never failed to seize opportunities like these before anyway, so I don’t even have to mention those guys.

Long story short… this is your time to shine.

… or, you know, cry, bawl, throw the baby out with the bathwater and unsub. That works too, improving the lot of your competitors even further.

Blackout is easily the best thing CCP has done in a decade and a half. If they keep it up, there’s hope for Eve after all.

Which are… none.

Ganktarding is not pvp.
afk ratting and botting was the least reduced, so bots are rejoiced as ISK they made now has double value.

Which hits consumers of those modules - the bears themselves.

Which was barely the case, with active ISK delta dropping (except May).

Except it didn’t increase.
Ganktarding is not pvp.

Except you can’t log in because you literally can’t do anything in game.

Except you can do nothing but be a spodbrain under supercap umbrella.

Mining in anything but rorqs under umbrella is DEAD.

Nobody will man the bait 23/7 and it won’t work anyway as ganktards will just bring more numbers to deal with it, after sacrificing a corvette to see what your fleet is.

This is our time to unsub and go alpha.

So why is online at 2006 levels? Probably because everyone is too happy to log in, right?

There’s hope for all of us to win eve, even those who don’t want to.

Yes, bots are quite happy with the changes.

Haaaah, you remain adorable. ā€œGanktardsā€. It’s like watching someone run around shoving a doll at every stranger’s face and going ā€œTHIS IS WHERE THEY TOUCHED ME!ā€ unprompted.

I have never seen this much consistent salt from someone, over such a long period of time.

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Yeah, no RL money was paid and no content for hunters was provided! :+1:

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This is baseless claim, have a better one here: Those who join are contributing nothing but pvp-avoiding risk-averse skill-free effort-free ganktarding, generating 0 content.

Those who leave were contributing subscription at least. Those who join for blackout will leave again when ganktarding will get less than 100% safe, and nothing of value will be lost.

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Yep :smiley:

Max (24h): 26,239 (2019-07-15 18:50:00)EVE_2006

So youre here to ā€œprovideā€ the ā€œsalt cheeringā€ that used to be in local - putting down others instead of trying to understand the debate or contribute to a serious discussion on what the real and or unintended consequences of the blackout are. Maybe we should start campaigning for it to be even yet easier for cloaky T3C gangs to kill people who already pose zero threat to them and their oh so ā€œriskyā€ gameplay? How about some autotargeting ā€œgoldā€ missiles with a BVR 300km range, no wait, 500 km range - only available to leet bittervets with more than 100 T3C’s lost or bought maybe? is that it ? Let’s make hard EVE so easy for the bittervets that ALL of them will return for a month each year. Thats GOTTA ā€œsaveā€ EVE ā€œgameplayā€ at this point…

So ye… but no. Nerf the rorq mining if you think there’s too much resources in null… but otherwise your ā€œargumentsā€ are just inane.

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I got a better post with dumped data, search for ā€œdumped eve-offlineā€ in this thread. It has all the numbers on bad days of eve (hint: only 3 sundays that bad within a decade).

Yesterdays Data:

As you can see from this data it drops below 20k pretty fast …
EVE_2019

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cry? why that… you us google translate for my post?)))

You know how little sense that makes with a 6 month PCU of just 24k - That means the average online per day is ONLY 24K over a 24 hr period- A very very long way from even the top 4 alliances membership online every day for the last six months.

Reminds me of another game i play - They boast about 1.2 million registered players world wide - Yet most servers were so low on active players they merged 30 odd servers into 6 and still (active) player numbers are low.

Eve years ago passed 600K accounts - Sadly I’d guess, less than 10% of that number are active at any one time.

NB; CCP can’t tell the world they only have 24K active accounts for much of the year and many of those are multiboxers - That is just really poor business sense, so they lie.,.

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Before dt on weekdays was my usual pve run time - it’s probably the only time we didn’t get a stream of reds passing by. I’m no bot, so I could get like 1 hour max, well, not in blackout…

The question is - ā€œare those logoffs BOTS that can’t operate anymoreā€?

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