Local Comms Blackout - Discussion Thread

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For good reason - a lot of people have strongly reacted to the blackout.

It’s very hard to gauge the breakdown of the for and against, but I believe that the following will happen:
-Many null inhabitants outside of the large blocs will move to lowsec or stop logging in
-CCP will finally release the observatories to return local for sovholders who want it. Some individuals will return to null
-The players who have returned because of the blackout will, at least partially, offset those who have stopped playing because of it.
-CCP will introduce other ā€œreality checksā€ for botters, like automating the scrutiny of those who mine/rat for more than 18 hours daily. Also, they might add a ratting depletion behavior, so that systems that are continuously ratted take more time for rat anoms to return.

We’ll just have to see what happens.

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where is our walking in stations


the observatory were back in 2015
the items were in the system an not published therefore it is all speculation as of now .
Here is the time that was linked an speculated about.
Observatory is JOVE an already exist.
Information an descriptions on this item an the items of the type are completely missing.

I know this is also a hard concept for some people, but PvP is a baked in design in EvE online.

There has always been only one way to ā€˜not PvP’ – stay docked. If you undock, you can, and sometimes will, engage in PvP whether you want to or not; because EvE is a PvP game.

Also, If PvP-fit ships could get a buff to be able to mine, then we could kill you and then also mine your rocks. And then you’d break your screen in a rage… see how that argument works? It just doesn’t work does it. Ships are fit for specific purposes, and each manner of fitting has pros and cons. If you want to mine in highsec, feel free to rainbow-unicorn-fart fit your ship. If you’re in supposedly dangerous nullsec, then you should fit your ship accordingly. Procurer or go home. Unless you have defences and a fleet, etc, in which case fly that covetor and unicorn fit it – however any time you undock, you consent to PvP.

Miners, ratters, and ā€˜casuals’ … can learn core concepts. If you undock in something that can stay aligned, then do so. If you press warp and aren’t already pointed/scrammed, then you 100% get away.

If you’re in a rorq, marauder, or dread and you seige, then you should have support. And be prepared to replace the ship, since those should have escorts.

This change makes hunting harder too. If you have eyes on your gates, you’ll see us far sooner than we will see you.

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I’m completely against bringing back any method of having local. The whole purpose of axing it will end up a moot point. These requested structures are not a good idea. Sov holders that put these up will just have the bots under them (link from a friend) and have free freakin’ reign to keep botting because then their botting program can watch local again.
Local should stay dead.
V for victory.

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I want an anchorable structure that restores local, but you have to fuel it with PLEX.

Not because it’s a good idea, just more in a, ā€œSome people just want to watch the world burn,ā€ sort of way.

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Out of the box thinking anyway! :wink:

From a gaming magazine

Toxic community

Lose everything you spent 6 months building because you can be attacked anywhere. The perpetrators do it because they say they love the tears and then tell the victims to go play WoW instead and Eve Online is not for everyone. The player base plummets and the PvPers blame CCP, the devs, for a decreasing number of potential targets, because they say the game has become to ā€œcarebearā€ friendly. A large driver of the game is an external site called Killboardz that tracks your ship kill/loss ratios. The emphasis is on quantity of kills and not quality. This means many successful players will evade difficult fights and will prey on the weakest and mostly newer players.

On the decline

The player number is about half of what it used to be and continues to decline. The game has been around for 16 years so it’s hardly a surprise
as of 2019
Take it or leave it ( pun intended )
I am where in all areas of eve online view the game as obsolete outdated genre with the same wash rinse repeat cycle.
I figure the game may have had time to change the core community yet what I am seeing in here so far is that it is still the toxic behavior over an over in eve online.
One group talks a lot of how one group us so much better than the other.

oh well.

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Small corp, small alliance, never lived under a super umbrella. Never mined AFK in nullsec because…it was too dangerous before this stupidity. Haven’t used a capital ship except for closing wormholes in months. Subcap for everything, pve and the small gang pvp which has eroded. Could use Rorq as a booster before, but not on indy core - that’s suicide. Now, can’t even use the rorq for boosting.

Now, everything I do I have to be mindful that the AFK blops losers who sit in their bombers cloaked for 6 hours playing some other game, do have one actual playing scout that no one can see coming, and the blops wankers will pause their other games long enough to hotdrop me. No, that’s ā– ā– ā– ā– , you afk blops are ā– ā– ā– ā–  and the ruin of the game and that’s why I’m logged off.

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Sounds like a shitty mag, or a shitty writer. Maybe a salty one that couldn’t hang.

They do say that the average IQ of both EvE and other games goes up when a player of EvE quits and goes to another game…

It’s a magazine in exactly the same way I’m the queen of Canada.

It’s from Slant :roll_eyes:. It’s literally just people-having-opinions-on-the-internet (the novelty is overwhelming amirite or wut).

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I’m really tempted to just reply ā€œCool story bro, can I have your stuff,ā€ but I’ll try (and likely fail) to point out to you what a bad argument you made, and why you’re actually safer now.

Okay so as for the mining, if you play smart with mining boats aligned, then you have absolutely nothing to fear. If you read up a good bit, I detailed exactly how long it takes to actually get a blops jump. TLDR; its 7 seconds optimal with no fuckups. If you can’t see on overview that dude in not-blue, and hit warp, you’re afk and should die. (Kill wasn’t even blops, he slowboated in 4 jumps down. SMH)

Now, we will bring that rorqual into the picture. So since you have a capital vessel, I’m going to assume you have a corp/alliance with ships that can defend a Capital vessel that is in trouble. If you don’t then you either need to park/sell the Rorq, or join a corp that can defend its assets. Another thing you have in a rorq that further supports you is the PANIC button. You know, that module that makes you and your miner buddies/alts invulnerable for a fuckin’ eternity so your allies can get to you. And it helps your entire mining fleet. I’ll call this, ā€œworking as intended.ā€

Hot-drop-o’clock really only works on AFK numpties, people who can’t stay aligned, or other hunter groups that you think you can engage in paper mache ships with big bombs/torps.

From the hunter’s standpoint, now I don’t have local to instantly know there’s a dude that I’ve tagged as a miner in system, so now I don’t know to instantly warp to mining anoms/belts to find you.
Cry me a river.
Also, we now can’t tell when people are cloaky-baiting.
Cry me another damn river. Adapt, or die. TEST, for all of my dislike, masterfully baited us (and a bunch of other hunter dudes, I just moved anyone not in that fight over to other side). If we’d had local, we wouldn’t have fallen for that bait.

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[edit that was bad, lemme try again]

A long time ago they gave me local.
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All hail the Queen. of moose, and maple fuckin’ syrup.
[edit] Now I want pancakes… at naught thirty in the morning. And I’m too tipsy to trust myself with anything involving the stove or other hot things.

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Also, I can confirm that roaming null has been MUCH more fun. I’ve only seen super fleet bridge in once since the blackout, and we’ve had more ā€˜gudfights’, a lot more fun than the stupid ā€œomgwtfbbq dude in local, undock the cynobait for max-super-blob!ā€.

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stabbed cloaky loki?
LMFAO
I wouldnt worry about that either, i could get a titan aligned and offgrid by the time that got a lock after decloak.

14.4 K right now. EVE is circling the drain and CCP’s blackout is at fault. If they shut down in 12 months, you will wish you were vocally against this idiocy.

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Current online numbers are irrelevant. Daily averages are a better indicator, especially after more than a few days of data (come back to this in 2 weeks)
Here’s a site with charts, just for you.
I do notte a decent uptick in newly created accounts… could be partially due to the MTC sale, but only time will tell.

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Bold statement, counter statement, many of the accounts that were active 23/7 are no longer logging in. Peak activity is still above the 20k average by five thousand.

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