And those very, very, very few people will be exempt and benefit from people like you acting like adults and getting the vaccine.
Also its not for children.
Yet. It only isn’t for children because the safety trials, those things you think are being skipped, haven’t been done yet. There is no reason to believe that it won’t be approved once we get to that point.
Yet people have been spreading viruses since forever.
And the people who refuse to get vaccines for them are selfish assholes who need to STFU with their tinfoil hat nonsense and act like responsible adults.
Plus, there are other ways to avoid spreading this virus…
Do you understand the concept of taking multiple overlapping precautions so that even if one fails there’s still something left to catch the problem? Apparently not.
which will be spread by children anyhow.
Do you understand herd immunity, R/R0, etc? Apparently not.
Do you understand that those precautions don’t have to be only the ones you demand? Apparently not.
Japan has not been having any more trouble with Covid 19 than it has every year with the flu. Its hard to say exactly what is going on, but being an American living in Japan I can see pretty clearly the day to day reality and differences in the countries.
Seems to me that Japan is exercising the best precautions of all: eating a healthful diet and therefore not getting obese and diabetic.
Seems to me its being insisted that I take precautions and submit to medical procedures because so many people failed to take the most basic care of themselves.
Of course its no one’s fault they got old, but that hardly matters. Fact is, they are old and could be killed by an ordinary flu anyway.
I am not demanding them. The infectious disease experts whose job is to understand these things are demanding them. And irresponsible children like you need to STFU, stop pretending that your 15 minutes of google searching and amateur medical theories have any value, and do what you’re supposed to do.
Virtually every single expert in the field of epidemiology: “the vaccines are safe, effective, and every person who can should get them as soon as possible”.
Renly “gankers are sociopaths” Rohan: BUT BUT MY GOOGLE IS MORE IMPORTANT YOU CANT MAKE ME.
I’m glad you clarified that you’re an American living in Japan because only a product of America’s worst schools could have your combination of arrogance, libertarian insanity and ignorance.
Did you see where I agreed the vaccines were very safe?
I guess not. What’s the point of talking to you if you make such ridiculous accusations against me?
My point is that there is risk and the risk may be unnecessary for ordinary sensible people. But those who get it need to be cautious. Being cautious means reading the fine print and following doctors’ instructions.
Lets see if the guy you suck up to and pretend to be a friend of does something about your personal attacks. I am thinking no. I am thinking more favoritism for you. But you might have to perform extra favors this time.
The risk is effectively zero. If you are whining about how “risky” it is as an excuse not to get the vaccine you’re probably the sort of person who thinks that eating a piece of bland toast is dangerous. So stop being a whiny child and get the vaccine.
Not the first time you shamelessly lied. If you did even a basic amount of good-faith research you would know that what I said is exactly the truth.
Lied? You made that quote up. You have no source. You provided no research to back up what you wrote.
But it isn’t zero. Further, its impossible to calculate my risk as an individual. Further, claims of injury have been made and are yet unresolved.
I could not even if I wanted to as its not available to me yet. And yet, I predict Japan is going to be fine. And I predict, I am going to be fine. I have actually had pre-diabetes twice. But I beat it both times. Its actually the whiners who need the vaccine. They screwed up and now whine that others need to come save them.
I’m well past the point where I do your research for you. This is the point where I call you an ignorant child because that’s what you are, just like the parent of a 5 year old tells their child what to do and isn’t required to provide explanations that the child is incapable of understanding.
But it isn’t zero.
There isn’t a single activity in the entirety of human existence that has zero risk.
Further, its impossible to calculate my risk as an individual.
It is very possible. What it isn’t possible to do is calculate it in a way that gives you justification for opting out.
Just look at vaccinated numbers vs vaccine deaths and compare that to the number of people who have had the virus and the number of people who have died. More than enough evidence there. You are just completely ignoring it.
I don’t provide evidence of my claims when I tell my dog it’s time to go get his annual shots, I don’t provide evidence to you when you have ignored all evidence presented so far, demonstrated a complete inability to do even basic research, and do not understand basic risk analysis. You have given me zero reason to believe that you are making a good faith effort to obtain new information, and I’m not going to play your game of “see how much time I can make people waste providing exact quotes for every minor detail”.
Chopping caveats again I see. You lost the word “unnecessary” there.
What about it? You posting on the forums is an unnecessary risk to your health. Why are you doing such a risky thing?
Its not. There is no calculation that will take into account my individual DNA, diet or allergic reactions.
There is no need to do so unless you have some specific reason to believe that any of those factors are relevant. Whether your risk level is 0.000000000000000000000000000001% or 0.000000000000000000000000000002% is irrelevant, we don’t need the exact number to know that you should get the damn vaccine and stop acting like an ignorant child.
If you have ever taken any medicine in your life then you have just nuked your own argument because nobody has calculated any of those things for your body for any medicine.