No Downtime Vol. 2 Feedback Thread

It is work in progress.
The fact that mining anomalies and belts exist in the same time is that they need some continuity.

The number of anomalies and how big they are as far as I know is watched closely. After the scarcity period ends you will see some of the results I guess.

Since you knew there were no astroids, did you go wandering about in your mining ship? A big part of this experiment is to make mining distribution better for everyone. As it is now, being dependant on downtime it is not. So you couldnā€™t mine much for a day or so, whatā€™s the problem? Mining will be one of the things that improve when they get rid of the old code.
Do something else for a day, and think of it like this, you arenā€™t a target for as many gankers if you arenā€™t sitting like a flaccid noodle in an eggshell ship waiting to die.
Gankers lost targets because of this too, and I donā€™t see them bitching much if at all.
This is a tiny disruption that could improve the whole game.

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Laughable. Truly laughable. I did do something else, just as I always do, because I am not exclusively a miner.

All I am saying is that, funny old thing, CCP feels it is ok to run an experiment that they know is going to screw miners, despite the fact that have existing code for mechanisms that could mitigate the impact. As I say, would the PVPers be happy with CCP saying, ā€œWe know this is going to screw up PVP for 52 hours, but it might mean the game is better in a couple of yearsā€™ timeā€?

As ever, mining is the one thing that CCP does not understand, and cares less about.

And in case you are not aware, most gankers now seem to go after haulers, only a minority now harass miners routinely, despite all their CODE childishness.

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Well, I have been trying to mine some low sec ore for 3 days. Downtime or no downtime apparently if you are not Russian timezone or early EU you are just out of luck. If you play in US TZ and go to 3 different systems and every single belt is cleaned by NPC miners it is freaking ridiculous. one system even had 13 belts and two anomalies all stripped clean by NPC miners.

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So let me get this straight. Your post was mostly a roundabout way of bitching about gankers?
I think youā€™re right, either thatā€™s what you are doing or Iā€™ve actually completely missed your point.

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people donā€™t mine on the test server so belts never need a respawn they can only test things like that on live servers. granted they should look at mechanics that rely on the DT to function and plan for them but maybe they did and just overlooked some it is hard the remember all the lines of code. Personally, I like the no DT, other MMOs run for weeks without downtime I would like to see that here would make for a better experience. all tho perhaps they could find a way to restart systems(servers) without people occupying them and introduce some sort of in-game way of running it like perhaps gates having ā€œmalfunctionsā€ so people canā€™t always rely on the same routes in space or rats running blockades on gates of systems that need a restart. I can think of other ways to do restarts of the physical equipment without needing to take the entire game down.

@CCP_Explorer A thing to look into. With No Downtime the NPC mining activity and how it will affect anomalies in the future if there will be no resets.

What is the point of NO DOWNTIME? No one I know minds the server coming down for a short time to possibly reduce some of the bugs in the game. I donā€™t see the benefit of this other than reducing the amount of time for CCP staff to work. This is a way to try to reduce expense for staff. We already pay enough for this game to expect the game to run smoothly and effectively. Fix what is broken do not break more things by running them longer. Next will be weekly downtimes and the game experience will be crap. Pearl Abyss has taken a game we all loved and are turning it more and more into a pay to win mini-transaction piece of garbage like all the other games of that model. Amazing what Greed will do isnā€™t it.

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I think they meant ā€œnot playing EVEā€ with ā€œdoing something elseā€ :grinning:

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Downtime affects different tz. While Iā€™m not affected cause Iā€™m asleep during dt, other tz like Asia or Oceania is affected and they are working on reducing dt to not affect certain to.

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There is plenty of reasons for the DT to be part of the game.

  1. Itā€™s been in the game for litterally ages, itā€™s something players have learnt to integrate into their gameplay to an extent that it takes part in the ā€œfeelā€ of Eve.

  2. It allows for inactive toons to be dcā€™ed.

  3. It helps ā€œquickā€ and ā€œmotivatedā€ players to take advantage of those ā€œjust beforeā€ and ā€œjust afterā€ DT time slots, when not many other players are online, and gates arenā€™t ā€œactiveā€ yet (you need to jump twice if you are the very first toon jumping through that gate).

  4. It forces a few players to become aware they have been playing non-stop for hours. Gaming addiction was mitigated to an extent by DT. CCP, come on.

  5. The planet ! Those 30 seconds during reboots which spared the planet such a great deal of polluting energy consumption ! Ok, now Iā€™m just kidding about this one :slight_smile:

o7

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Its an experiment, are you impacted now? you already know your answer then

Iā€™m quite new to the game, but I canā€™t find any asteroids to mine within 4 gates of the area Iā€™m doing the tutorials out of. Is this an effect of not resetting the system daily? (I assume it is since Iā€™ve looked at several other posts). I thought Iā€™d just throw my 2 cents in.

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Both, not logging in if all you do is mine, or jumping in some other ship and doing different stuff in Eve.
There is more to this game than just mining and ratting. Like a lot more and to me that is what makes it really cool. If I canā€™t do one thing for whatever reason I have a million other options to choose from.
The idea of doing nothing but one thing over and over is rather foreign to me, but if I did and it stopped working for some reason I would hope I had the sense to get out of my rut.

Here in the UK, we have BREXIT so we are used to empty shelves in supermarkets, no asteroids in mining belts etc. :slight_smile:

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Yes it is, you nailed it. Donā€™t worry though you can continue the tutorials later. Your timing is perfect though, any sooner or any later and you would have missed this. Also it will be over soon, so donā€™t lose hope, experiments like this are very rare.
For now just keep learning, ask questions in Rookie Help (if you can keep up with it!) and explore new Eden a bit, itā€™s huge and amazing.

Also welcome to Eve!!!

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I donā€™t understand why resources are being wasted on trying to eliminate a ā€œfeatureā€ that every EVE-Player has grown used too and integrated into their game like a few people have already pointed out (e.g. escaping right after DT, etc.)

I think the resources would have been better spent on trying to eliminate TiDi or fix other Bugs in the game

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Good point. I forgot about that as a tactic.

Can we keep DT please? LOL

:mouse:

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Cosmic sigs donā€™t seem to appear that often if no downtime, but 52 hours without a downtime is a good milestone!

Keep it up CCPā„¢ youā€™ve kept me happy for 17 years, here hoping for another 17 years of good fun!

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Among other thingsā€¦

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