What is the difference between the t1 and t2 nullifier? Except for more cpu usage for the t2 module, there does not appear to be any difference.
For some people, yes.
Well, there is another buff to big blocks. Guess CCP doesn’t want small gangs bothering the big boys.
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Not to mention the lack of QA. See list below [1]:
- named nullification module fits on Bombers (not intended)
- Shuttles missing nullification traits in info
- no preseeded BPO → effectively deleted nullification for some time from the game
- shanking fleet tackle ceptors and delaying them effectively making crabs even more safe and handicapping roaming PvP even more
- Yacht can’t cloak and nullify at the same time now because 1 highslot / ship basically useless now
- Fozzie Claw is back (where they made an extra patch to remove nullification from combat ships)
[1] Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/nf7t3e/news_nullification_wcs_changes_pushed_to_tq/
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Lol its live already.
Popcorn.
Zkill.
I guess Tranquility is CCP’s latest Test Server.
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The fact they went ahead and made this live, with so many problems still outstanding is just revolting…
…and it seems CCP have forgotten what Nullsec is. Null Security. No security. They’re not supposed to feel safe out there. Now, the ever increasingly massive alliances - which will one day just be one or two in number - have their own private highsec to play in, and deny to the rest of us. Nullsec is nothing but a giant walled garden now.
What on earth are you playing at, CCP? You’re not going to get more people to null by forcing them into a Nullsec alliance. I don’t WANT to be in a Nullsec alliance. Nothing sounds more boring to me than tedious alliance politics and inter-corp posturing. The endless rules and quotas etc. Stop trying to shoehorn us into gameplay we don’t want or need just in order to build something or get somewhere.
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Procurer with a WCS can fly 2 drones out of 5 thats not Good. Mining ships should be exempt from the drone bandwidth nerf.
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It is a pity that CCP has put this update, it is a pity to leave the game because of the stupidity of the administration. Wasting your time on mechanics that you don’t like is stupid! I hope that other players will follow me. After such a CCP is not worthy of our attention and time!
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Using a WCS means giving up part of your combat capabilities in order to have better chance to get away. If you want all drones, don’t fit WCS.
What I do not understand is that this drone bandwidth penalty is present for the nullification module too. The only nullified drone ships are T3Cs with the nullification subsystem and drone subsystem. Should one of those completely cancel the other?
Oh wow you are right. CCP why don’t you just remove t3s from the game and give our sp back, you’ve made them effectively useless anyway.
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It doesn’t make sense that drone bandwidth is related to either of the two modules. The problem is not pvp but fending off rats while you try to mine. Many Rats use ECM and break your target lock on the rocks your harvesting. Some will outright Scram and web . You have to kill them and it takes 5 drones. You can reship , kill Rats and swap back to the proc but when rats happen several times an hour its a problem. It drastically lowers isk per hour.
Using a Skiff lets you have a full 5 drones with a stab fitted but the Proc is solidly boinked for solitary or small group null Anom mining Skiffs cost much more than procs … so maybe CCP wants to shift Omega miners into the more expensive ships ?
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I dislike the bandwidth penalty too, and would much rather have seen a drone damage penalty instead for fitting the WCS. Same result (less drone dps) but without the weird ‘half a light drone’ bandwidth things and without penalty to non-damage drones.
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Sure everyone does have their own thing. . . However the changes to updates ect can’t possible cater to every game style. . . I mean I appreciate the fresh take on old mechanics. Do I believe this dev time could be spent on other things more productive? 100 percent. But I believe we all have our own opinion on whats more productive to spend more dev time on. My point being any change is good, it keeps ideas fresh and allows for new play styles to develop.
Alright, I’ll take ma words back again… My opinion is now back to “Stupid change”
Since the change is now warp core strenght +2 instead of +3 as first available on Sisi. And because of the limitation of only 1 module. And the short activation time/duration. And the long reactivation delay. AND the added malus to the drones, as if the existing targetting range malus was not enough. And the penalties are all appliying even when the module is not active.
This module is malus over malus over malus over some more restrictions.
Why not just remove that module from the game if you guys hate it that much?
My WCS blueprint is probably good for garbage, and I’m probably going to be stuck with what is left of my only batch production (from before the change was announced). Hopefully, some fanboys on Youtube will advertise the change on WCS as the best thing in the world, and I’ll be able to sell them to newbros in the rookie systems.
Moving my PI and mining back to high-sec (might keep a venture in low-sec for occasional jaspet mining). Instead of going ahead and scout 10-15 jumps to Perimeter before going in with the industrials, I’ll only have 3-4 jumps to scout. Can’t trust the single WCS to do the job.
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I’m sure they’ll add +3 or even +4 variants ,once the ppl swallow the fact that it’s an active module now. Update for lil noob explorer like me ? I logged out this morning with 400 mil est value in loot in my cargohold. Logged in tonight, its 650mil estimate…dang.
They should have added them with this release.
RTF now, not in 6 months. They just can’t read the feedback + they can’t think ahead.
Still, even with more variants, the WCS would still be just a composite malus module
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CCP COMPLETELY IGNORED OUR FEEDBACK. NOT ONLY IS LOW SEC LIFE THAT CCP PUSHED INDUSTRIALISTS INTO MUCH HARDER WITH THESE STAB CHANGES MUCH HARDER. THERE ARE NO BUBBLES IN LOW SEC. AND WE ALREADY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE OPPRESSION OF SNUFF… THERE IS A REASON THESE CHANGES WERE HURRIED OUT TO YOLO THEM AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS JUST LIKE BLACKOUT… THEY LEARNED ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FROM BLACKOUT AND ARE PLACATING TO NULL AFFLIATE SYCOPHANTS THAT WANT THE GAME TO BE BALANCED SOLEY ON THEIR PVP FANTASY’S … THIS IS THE WORST THING CCP IS EVEER DONE AND THE FURTHER NERF TO STABS SHOWS THAT CCP IS NOT TAKING ANY FEEDBACK IN THIS FORUM SERIOUSLY…
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join me in jita at the monument 9pm tonight and sd your fleet inty
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im just going to unsub after my current BPO finishes cooking. If a lot of us do THAT, and hit them in their real pocketbook, they’ll pay attention.
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