Looking for feedback after it was given even before implementation of changes… You’re literally showing people you don’t give a damn about it away.
There’s your feedback.
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They could reduce the cycle time on ECM modules to 10 seconds.
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They could split ECM modules into small, medium, large, extra large, and capital modules, discontinue the signal distortion amplifier modules, and roll the increased strength into the ECM modules of varying size, while allowing them to be scripted for racial jams which would allow ships of like size to be more effective against each other and reduce the whining about “oh my capital was jammed by a Griffin”. Throw in an Ewar dread that can jam Triaged FAXes and you’d have a FAX counterplay as well. But nope, this would be work.
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They could deal with the exploit of repeatedly launching and retrieving your ECM drones until they get a jam to bypass the drone jammer cycle time.
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They could just ignore the people who are complaining about ECM who are upset they get jammed when they never want to fit a counter to protect themselves from ECM. They don’t nerf weapons because someone doesn’t want to fit tank, why should they do this?
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Long time listener, first time moaner.
I’m a wormholer and tbh, couldn’t give a ■■■■ about the 500mn HICs. Yes they were nice, but this is a balance I think not only needed to nerf the abuse of them but also just one of those nerfs people have to live with.
However…
I genuinely don’t understand the ECM nerf. ECM was primary anyway (especially in small gang WH stuff) so now it’s still primary but everything can wipe it off the grid… even with the buffs (I presume it wont have BS size tank).
Why wasn’t the effectiveness of the mods just reduced?
Please… I have been skilling for this for ages and now it’s basically another ship’s hull buffer!
Please CCP Falcon… PLEASE HEAR MY CRY!
The tears of 1000 orphans are pouring steadily into the CCP nerf enigma machine and it wont do!
I can’t live without the ECM that was so readily afforded to the Falcon!
Please CCP! I beg of you! I can’t!
Too many children have suffe…
OK… point made.
Forever yours
SSjGhost
FDo7
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he doesnt care, none of them do - if you want them to care cancel your subs its clearly the only way to get their attention, (im sorry to say).
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been there, done that, good luck to you thou 
in fact , i propose to answer on Reddit if this gets more attention.
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do it - im going to start self destructing blackbirds on the jita undock 
I’m not that experienced or a vet player, but using ECM in fleets is something I could do to at least contribute a bit since my DPS and Tank and all the other skills are not that high yet.
Now there is 1 less thing I can do.
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Ohhhh CCP wants feedback??
You already had it, you already had legions of players telling you that this patch was a LEMON pushed for by a CSM that wants to keep their crabbing/blue donut safer. But CCP decided to ignore their player base in favour of rushed changes that were not thought through properly.
AWFUL stuff CCP, just truly awful. And i used to defend you guys…
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CSM is broken (majority represents goon interests)
ECM is broken (that change, just lol)
Feedback is broken (we gave you feedback about this patch last week, you ignored us).
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I’m pretty sure that you’re the only one here thinking that.
Boy, look at all the constructive feedback in this thread. Reminds me of the original feedback thread, in fact. So much articulate, well reasoned, polite, mature feedback for the devs to iterate on. So proud of our community for responding to such potentially divisive changes in such an adult manner.
Lol.
Even more proud of the devs and the CSM.
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When people dont listen to “Well reasoned, polite, mature feedback”, this is what happens.
Working as intended.
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Don’t forget structure ECM is for taunting your enemy like shouting “Donkey Bottom biter” at them
but Its OK as you can always kite them at maximum range and as an Astrahus pilot I’m sure you will find a role in both small engagements and large fleet battles.
of course you’re F**%Ked flying solo
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We really need a reddit feature here. Would love to have downvotes. And hey, since its reddit that might actually happen.
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you must seek goon approval for such a feature, have you not heard? They are now in charge of what CCP do and dont add/remove from the game.
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There was a decided lack of such feedback even in the original thread. I don’t blame people for being opposed to the changes. Hell, I don’t like some of them, and wormholers in particular definitely had perfectly legitimate and important reason to object. But if there was anyone giving actual ‘well reasoned, polite, mature feedback’, it was thoroughly drowned out by the tidal wave of people convinced that vituperatively insulting the devs, csm, and anyone and everyone else in the general vicinity was the appropriate response. The community never gave the devs a chance to iterate before jumping straight to full asshole mode, and frankly it’s to the devs credit that they adjusted things at all (which the community has also basically ignored) and maintained their professional attitude in the face of such insulting immature behavior. I know if I were a dev I wouldn’t have wanted to wade through that sort of muck.
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Muon you need to go read the original feedback thread. (A big ask i know, but there is TONS of constructive feedback there almost all of which was ignored by CCP.)
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On the Warp Disruption Field Generator.
Wasn’t/isn’t there a way to use this in low sec as a single target warp disrupter that is immune to warp strength? Only on the 4 cruisers it supports?
I suppose this means that it is no longer a counter to try to outrun that ship in low sec.