Off-Topic Thread vol. 2

Sometimes I wonder if your wife keeps slaves for the sole purpose of cucking you…

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You mean come to her senses?

Ah, adorable.

She has those?

Apparently she does. I understand how foreign a concept that might be to those without however. I’ll let some one better at explaining (and has more patience) explain it to you.

Drinking, nakedness, spending habits and other such key military decisions discovered at the tavern.

St. Tetrimon troops big drinkers? Pfft, I doubt we’ll find a corroborating source on that.

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If the rumors are wrong, then I’ll retract my words and give my apology for assuming.

But I expect better journalism than that. And this cluster has a habit of the worst possibilities always being the true ones.

What have I said about expecting better? A great way to find out people don’t meet your expectations.

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Note the lack of denial…

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He would need permission from his wife before he could.

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Like Arrach Sarum, for example.

It’s worth reminding everyone this is the same publication that quoted an anonymous source as saying my Grandfather was poisoned, despite extensive evidence to the contrary.

I’m still looking at options for dealing with that particular piece of salacious rumour mongering, and I hold very low stock in the efficacy of their ‘reporting’ from that. The Gutter Press level of further quotes only serves to strengthen my suspicions.

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It is not Gutter Press that is the source of these… things.

I would suggest it is more of the calibre of “journalism” that one could expect from the Ves-Sefris Informer, you know, the one that pegs itself as the “truthful Kingdom news”.

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And in fact the rumors seem to have been proven wrong already.

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Cheap bar talk proven to be the sum of its contents once more.

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As it turns out, yes indeed.
It was most unbecoming of me to compare Gutter Press’ innocent kind of gossip to what can now safely be called dropping lit matches into a powderkeg, courtesy of The Scope.

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Oh, don’t say that, Else! People listen to you.

This is exactly the kind of idea my predecessor had about our existence, but what it justified to her was …

It’s not reasonable to expect that a soldier and a farmer will behave the same; nor is it reasonable to expect a human and a slaver hound to obey the same rules. If we’re something only once-human, we don’t have to follow human rules, either.

Then, also, it’s never a good idea to let humans define you as being something other than human. Humans have enough trouble feeling a kinship even with other humans if they happen to be from other peoples and places.

You see why this is a problem? We can argue definitions, but definitions are mobile, words and stories are adaptable, and defining ourselves outside the circle of humanity is likely to get a lot of people hurt. Likely including us.

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Don’t tell my kin’s myths in a thread about Minmatar customs and legends because you could not deal with similar ideas? Yea I don’t think that’s how any of this works

Also, human ghosts are still human, as are ancestors gone ahead. I said nothing about being outside of the circle of humanity, that is your extrapolation.

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It’s a problem inherent to redefining ourselves as something mythic, Else. Stories have power.

It’s good if your culture doesn’t see the spirits of dead humans as no longer human, but does it really have no stories about vengeful specters or starving souls whose surviving families disregarded their duties?

My predecessor thought of herself as a vengeful specter. It’s how she justified kinslaying-- far from remorse, she took satisfaction in avenging herself on those she’d died to prove herself to. She was, in her own words, a curse on her family. That’s something she could justify being only because she considered herself dead.

I didn’t say you shouldn’t tell your kin’s myths. I said that analogizing us to them is something to maybe consider not doing. There are people who analogize us to all kinds of mythic stuff; gods and demigods seem especially popular. I don’t think any of it’s a good idea. It doesn’t stop me talking about myths at all, or enjoying stories. But self-identifying as something out of them … that’s where I kind of go, “Okay, can we maybe not?”

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You do not get to tell me anything about my people’s myths being harmful, collaborator.

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A truth stands independent of its speaker, Else. I’m not attacking you or your people right now; just pointing out a problem you might want to consider: that analogizing capsuleers to mythic beings is a dangerous practice.

I can no more silence you than you can silence me. But I think you should think this through.

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