In fairness, until such a time as people find a way to cancel someone’s clone contracts, all denigrators will be impotent.
If it qualifies as infiltration, then it goes the opposite way you think it does.
That is why I choose to remain formal.
Why can’t it just be Lord, though? Not trying to be rude, just trying to be efficient.
In fairness, everyone here is an adult, so it is somewhat expected that everyone here has already been built up. Furthermore, whilst I usually do not participate in rudeness, it stands to reason that adults should be able to shrug such things off if the less civil resort to it.
The strongest.
I have seen you flying around in Athounon too, naughty being.
Well, the alternative is you continue the current attack, in which case we will, obviously, respond. Going back the line of history further and further to who started what first will not gain you any points in the long run. We are in the situation we are in and no amount of wishful thinking that we’d have done something differently in the past will not change it. Either you want a peaceful way out from here and now, or you don’t.
Cute.
But it really works better when the admiral does it.
It is not my name, it is that of my family’s. Either you use it with the purpose to evoke that association, which is foolish given the circumstance, or you do it without understanding what you are doing, in which case you are indeed the fool.
Casual formal is ‘Elsebeth’. If you insist on a title, ‘Captain Rhiannon’ will do.
Shaninn is my family name, the name of the closest blood kin I was born to. They named me Elsebeth, which is my personal name. Then comes the clan I currently belong to, and then the one I was born into. These are all parts of my name. Elsebeth, Shaninn, of Rhiannon, born Rhiannon.
EDIT: I mean, I don’t know why they are used that way, why clan takes and ‘of’ and family doesn’t. It’s just how we do it.
Those were the actions of a cabal of thieves and murders, stealing funds that lawfully should have gone to the Republic Fleet and RSS. They illegally diverted those funds into the hands of more criminals outside of the Republic, in order to build warships for the purpose of undermining the Midular regime.
Then they used that illegally-funded Thukker fleet to attack the Empire, and your clone Empress used a weapon no less illegal under Yulai’s technology-sharing requirements. This means that she had that illegal weapon well in advance of the attack. That fact, in turn, makes any claims of the Empire adhering to the Yulai treaty farcical at best.
Any claims that the Republic acted to damage international efforts for diplomacy are just as farcical, and are born either of ignorance of the Midular government’s efforts, willful misrepresentation of the facts, or sheer stupidity. As you do not seem stupid, I sincerely hope it is the first.
That the ‘Elder fleet’ was pressed into service to save the Starkmanir does not change the criminal origins of the fleet. It does not change the fact that that fleet was one element of a conspiracy expressly intended to paint Karin Midular as weak and ineffectual. And it does not change the murder of countless loyal Minmatar public servants by the same criminal cabal in order to secure the ascension of their public front-man, Malateau Shakor.
All of these things remain true. And all of these things pale in comparison to the threat levied openly through the repeatedly-avowed goal of the Amarr Empire to see the inhabitants of every star system in the cluster subjugated or killed.
Oh, we’re pretending the giant ■■■■-off Elder Fleet and the staggering funding, coordination, manufacturing capability, logistical support and all the other things required for such managed to happen without the explicit approval of Republic officials on a wide scale again?
Spirits above, just stop it. There is no one left in New Eden who would buy that, and it’s just pathetic to maintain that farcical claim.
The Republic knew. The Republic is morally and ethically culpable, even if legally it’d be a nightmare to prove.
It’s fine. It was the right thing to do. Slaver fleets in our space, supported even by Caldari Navy. Trillions of our people in slavery. Countless little acts of war from every side. The Elder Fleet was necessary and just. Trying to run propaganda narratives on the subject does nothing but diminish you, our people and the sacrifices made.
First, no. If, for example, one civilian commits the crime of assault by shoving another civilian, the second individual is not, as a general rule, empowered to kill the perpetrator. They are within their rights to prevent further assault, but are not within their rights to escalate: the perpetration of a crime does not automatically revoke all protections of the law, which is the common agreement in this case.
Similarly, if the two of them are in a location where personal weapons are legal, but weapons of mass destruction are not, and the first individual draws a stolen knife, their intended victim is not suddenly within their rights to start throwing anti-matter grenades around (or even to own them).
Was the Empire within its rights to defend itself? Legally, yes. That does not, however, change the fact that possessing the superweapon violated the Yulai provisions on technological exchange. Much like the current stellar harvesters, the technology should have been given to CONCORD to be reverse-engineered and disseminated among the signatories as required by international law. That’s not just ‘to the Republic’, either. The Federation and State also had claim to that tech being shared, and neither offered any action you could use to justify the Empire’s failure to honor its treaty obligations.
Just like it was obligated to share this current technology with them, too, and did not.
Certainly. I was merely drawing the distinction that violating the agreement doesn’t free the other party from all of the terms of the agreement, only the immediately-relevant ones (unless that’s written into the agreement).
Ah, so now it’s not just Jamyl, but her entire ship, that was divinely conjured from the aether? All those baseliner crewmembers, too?
Or was House Sarum, and through them, the Empire, in possession of the weapon prior to its arrival on the battlefield? If it appeared with her, then it needed to be installed in the ship before it could be fired. If they had time to install it, they had time to meet their treaty obligations and turn it over to CONCORD.
But again: it’s not just about us. Building these things in the Republic warzone doesn’t do the State or Federation a lick of good as far as the legally-binding treaty obligations on tech-sharing, does it?
It’s not conjecture. There are a limited number of possibilities:
Jamyl Sarum, the weapon, the ship it were on, and her crew, all appeared out of thin air the moment before she arrived on the battlefield.
The weapon was in the possession of House Sarum at some point before that moment. Even if only for long enough to put a crew onto the ship.
That’s it. If you’ve got a third option, let’s have it.
I don’t know that the Republic has the capability to share that technology yet. If it’s well-enough understood by Republic engineers that they can safely allow CONCORD personnel access to it, then yes. I do know that if the Empire built these things, then they definitely do have the capability to share the technology. And not just at a ‘here, we’ll let you poke at one and hope it doesn’t explode’ level, but at the ‘here are the blueprints, and copies of our research into the physics behind it’ level. And they haven’t.
I have more than three times as many centuries of bad faith examples counterbalancing any good faith behavior since the Rebellion.
And I have every single moment of those ‘good faith’ behaviors, that include the Empire continuing to wage relentless cruelties and psychological warfare on those of my kin still in bondage, to call them hypocrites.
Nor am I inclined to believe a known capsuleer, with all of the implants needed to make use of cloning facilities, functionally limitless funds at her disposal, and a will to become Empress, simply poofed back into existence when her homeworld was under attack. Surely, the omniscient deity with the power to create the entire universe could have conjured her back into existence with her superweapon when it would have, I don’t know, prevented all of the loss of innocent Amarr lives? Or even just… made the Elder Fleet explode all on his own?
Her story stinks worse than Shakor’s insistence that there was a conspiracy of tens of thousands across the whole Republic that somehow nobody except him and his network of trained assassins knew about.