On the Reclamation of Floseswin

It’s hardly my fault I’m the only one asking questions. He’s certainly free to.

Yes, and once the Throne was vacant, the Chamberlain kept it so.

That sounds to me like you’re trying to explain what you claim can’t be explained. If you can explain it, why should he be unable to? Really now, you clearly have absolutely no idea what the hell is going on here, so why not just try to follow the discussion, rather than shut it down?

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With all due respect and humility, I would find it presumptuous to attribute motive to Arrendis’ line of questioning on my part. So far all that has occurred has been the asking of questions, to which I have endeavoured to answer.

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Ok, so you wouldn’t presume to know the mysteries of the Throne. But—according to Captain Yassavi—God sent Tetrimon to purge the Throne. So God, apparently, wanted the Throne opposed. Was everyone else supposed to attack St. Tetrimon? Is that, as you understand it, what God wanted the common people to do? Is that what the Theology Council says God wanted the masses to do?

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As I understand it, Saint Tetrimon was sent to act on his own volition inspired by God to prevent the need for the common citizen to either endure or revolt due to the madness of the Emperor Without Name.

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There are a considerable number of factors Arrendis leaves out of the retelling of St. Tetrimon’s martyrdom, including his social standing prior to his divine act.

The full story would be helpful in informing her of how disputes in an Amarr hierarchy are handled.

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Notable also were the patience with which he approached his task, and the sacrifices he made in the years leading up to his martyrdom.

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Just as the Mad Emperor was from House Ardishapur so too was Saint Tetrimon from the Ardishapur Family. If the Mad Emperor corrupted divine mandate then it fell to his own family to rectify the matter. I think this is the difficulty outsiders find with the Empire. A cynical or jaded view of human behaviour would see corruption and complicity in that corruption as a given, however the unbeliever forgets just how much faith and belief regulates behaviour among those in power in the Empire.

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Which is part of why one has a discussion, isn’t it? I mean, I’m sure you know by heart all of the obscure and irrelevant lore of my Clan and can repeat the stories for hours, right? :wink:

So please, illuminate me with a complete retelling.

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This whole discussion is off base.

The Heretic that St. Tetrimon killed was a would-be usurper and never the legitimate Emperor.

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Go on… obviously, I don’t know any of this. Thus, my request for a full retelling.

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The Emperor at the time of the conquest of the Ealur was Emperor Arrach, of the house of Sarum, not the Heretic.

I am sure you have repeatedly heard his oft quoted message to the Ealur from CE 21423 (“Run and you shall be crushed. Stand and you shall fall. Kneel and you shall be saved”), which is of course right in the middle of the period that heretical revisionist historians say that the so called “Mad Emperor” reigned.

During the Emperor Arrach’s reign, the Heretic claimed to be the rightfully elected Emperor. He rallied his supporters at his deep space base in Shastal. Before the rightful Emperor turned his military attention to this rebellion, St. Tetrimon assassinated him, ending the affair with minimal bloodshed.

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Good to know I was in error regarding this “Mad Emperor” and he was only an usurper that required no punishment by God of the Holy Throne.

No, he certainly needed punishment delivered upon him, St Tetrimon was the instrument of that requirement. It is simply that he was not an Emperor that I believe you erred upon. An unfortunate effect likely of the amount of revisionist propaganda and heresay that is tossed around.

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I’m a soldier, not a Hedion scholar!

This is why institutions like the Theology Council are so vital: to ensure that learned and wise men and women can rectify mistakes for the laity!

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This seems like a highly abbreviated retelling. Kind of like ‘So, yeah, seven years ago, we wanted more moons, so Mittens attacked Fountain, and that’s the story of the Battle of 6VDT.’

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The death of a failed usurper several thousand years ago is not worth more time than that.

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I guess the concepts of thinking for yourself and holding your leaders accountable aren’t really a thing in the empire, huh?

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I am able to think for myself, I just moderate my thoughts through my faith in God. As for holding my leaders to account, that is just not my place but rather other institutions such as the Theology Council, MIO, or the Speakers of Truth.

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But the life and divine calling of the Saint who put an end to him should be, no?

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He martyred himself to kill a heretic and saved countless lives by doing so. You could commission a research project into the rest of his life if you really wanted to, but the moment of sanctity is in that moment of inspiration in which he decided to kill the Heretic at the cost of his own life.

And we can only judge that moment of inspiration by the results. It is not like he had time to write down his autobiography between killing the heretic and being gunned down himself.

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