One wallet and inventory for all characters on the same account!

Well like i said you’re allowed to have that opinion, won’t really change anything though :slight_smile:

You bet I am.

That’s right, it won’t change the fact that it’s a great idea and you’re jealous because you didn’t come up with it :slightly_smiling_face:

Also, decades? Man! You need a new hobby.

So, why should it have been in the game in the first place?

You seem to be forgetting a couple of key things here, firstly, shared inventory for other MMO’s is only for that single account and is generally extremely limited, that in and of itself means its mostly useless for EVE where you would want storage between multiple characters on multiple accounts, which is what the corp wallet and hangars facilitate, in addition to replicating the functions of guild storage

People look at what other MMO’s have done and then, incorrectly, assume that it works for every type of game that could ever exist, despite it functionally not being the same setup given that EVE is one of the few MMO’s where multiboxing is encouraged and is actually viable, you’re less likely to be dualboxing the likes of WoW or FFXIV and those are games where all of your characters are on a single account regardless of how many characters you have

In a many characters on one account system its pretty simple because ownership is easy to prove and there is no window for exploitation, in EVE its nowhere near as simple a task and there are ways it could be exploited to circumvent things like recruitment checks and to make it harder to track things like RMT etc

All the while providing no real benefit over the existing systems that already supports ACL’s etc

Also worth mentioning that with a corp you actualyl get far more storage than you would with a single shared inventory because of the limitation of 1000 stacks of items in a single inventory, corps have multiple hangars which takes that to 7000 unique stacks ir memory serves, NGL its been a while since i last looked at the corp inventory system because all my alts just own their own stuff lol

Thanks for these comments, Cypherous. When I cited The Elder Scrolls Online as an example of character sharing earlier in this thread, I did not mention that only one character can be logged in at a time. Clearly, this would not be of benefit in EVE, where we can log in one character from each of our accounts. Generally, in TESO, there is one account, which may contain up to 9 characters.

I still think a shared pool (across all accounts/characters) for ISK and PLEX would be handy, but I don’t regard it as particularly important. Thanks again.

TESO is chock full of multi-boxers. Just like EVE.

Why make stuff up when there is plenty of truth available to help you make your argument?

Mr Epeen :sunglasses:

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Yup, the same is true in a lot of MMO’s, most of them only permit 1 character to be logged in, which EVE does aswell but the difference is EVE doesn’t mind and actively encourages running more than 1 client, whereas the likes of WoW etc wouldn’t really benefit from trying to multibox, or are games that actively disallow it, shared inventory works on single login games for sure, because its essentially impossible to trade with yourself there

EVE players on the other hand are well known for finding and then repeatedly making use of any kind of edge cases lol

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In DAOC there was buff bots, that is accounts that you logged to give your main buffs, a bit like system-wide boosters in Eve.

People had known scripts/macro, until they were forbidden.

I mean, in other games there was an incentive to play several accounts at the same time. I don’t know if this was “a lot” of them.

I have two accounts on the same comp and I CAN NOT play them at the same time as one of them is Omega the other Alpha, the so multiboxing is allowed only if it is paid for!

I have never multiboxed on another game so I have no idea how multiboxing works there, what I do know though is that the EVE launcher recognizes that I have two accounts and lets me choose which one to play, so if the game can do that because it knows that these two accounts belong to the same person/player then it should recognize that the items of the different chars of these accounts also belong to the same player and from then on it should be easy to set up the shared inventory and wallet ESPECIALLY that most of their features are already used by the corp inventory and wallet, so they don’t have to be invented from scratch but only slightly modified.

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Yes that is part of the limitation, its to prevent people multiboxing multiple alpha accounts to do things like mining and ganking etc

It only recognizes the accounts you’ve set up on the launcher, it doesn’t verify who owns those accounts nor does it assume the same person actually owns both of them, shared PC access would result in multiple people using the same computer so it can’t assume that just because they are both in the launcher than both of them belong to the same person

So its not as simple as you think, as it stands they are still individual accounts and the launcher treats them as such

I don’t know about ‘chock full’. I speak only from experience. I’ve been playing the game for a decade or so and if there are multi-boxers, I do not see them. They are certainly less obvious than those in EVE - though I could be wrong about them, too; perhaps they’re individuals playing together.

As for using TESO to support my argument, this was commentary about inventories and the sharing of them across accounts. My responses were related to that topic.

To be honest, Mr E, I was a bit taken aback by your uncharacteristically cynical take on what I wrote. I can be wrong, I get it, but I never intentionally mislead.

I would like to voice my support for the ideas.

  • Just as a corporation can rent an office (and associated hangars), I would like to be able to personally rent hangars. (Btw, re-naming hangars would be cool too). Using ACLs (just like for bookmark folders) to control who can access the hangars.
  • Adding a “division” (or two) to your wallet that you can control with an ACL.
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Sorry. I didn’t realize you haven’t seen any so they must not be a problem.

I guess in your ten years playing you’ve never browsed the forum either. And since you’ve never seen the tons of threads complaining about multi-boxing, it means its not a problem in the game.

Wilful blindness does not mean there is no problem, Sasha.

Mr Epeen :sunglasses:

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Another smart man.
o7

Haha; of course, they are not a problem for me.

I’ve never even landed on the Forum frontpage, let alone browsed it.

So yes, my observations are purely local ones, based upon what I encounter in the game. I don’t think I wrote or implied that mine was the only view.

But Mr E, none of this is relevant to the subject of shared inventories, is it? It’s most unlike you to wander so resolutely off topic, but perhaps I’ve made my position a little clearer now.

he puts his alts in said corporation…so it does help.

If he does not want to do that, that is not ours or CCP’s fault, it is OP’s choice for whatever reason he has to do or do not.

So no im not ignoring his point.
Since his point is that he has no reason stated to not do this, that he is fuqing lazy, and wants to selfishly have game changes done to affect everyone and the game itself in a detrimental way just to justify his Karen/Darren/Carebear self.

The idea has no merit as posted except to waste Dev time and resources to attempt to turn EvE into WoW…or STO…which EvE is neither of those games.

If the OP wants to play those games, then go ahead. But he and you should just STFU and stop crying like mewling carebears.

and you @stefnia_Freir know im old school from the '09-'11 era of this game.

Carebear - A person that lobbies the game developer(CCP) to adversely change game mechanics instead of using the current mechanics in such a way as to make the game more lazy, and to delete intentionally or inadvertently play styles of the player base simply to sastify personal needs and wants.

SO before you go flagging my post for STFU remarks that definition is why i say that a lot. IF he (op), you or any other player can not handle EvE, or are too lazy to play the game and learn how , or are unable to mentally learn how to properly play EvE then maybe this game is not for you. Either way, with this post STFU has relevance cause if he is not being lazy then he has some nefarious agenda for in game purposes for his wants and needs of this post.

So there you go, STFU and learn how to play, we do not need this garbage idea and it is a wast of Dev time.

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It’s aging about as well as you ever undocking…or for that matter even logging in.

You seem a little agitated. Perhaps a nice Camomile tea is in order.

Mr Epeen :sunglasses:

It’s not that he does not WANT, it’s that it does not HELP.

then he does not understand enough why it does help and that his wants/needs/post is and should be viewed as lazy and selfish.

Oh there it is, your pet peeve, someone didn’t undock :joy: