Nonsense. Nobody needs to learn it all. Instead, you learn something new every day. To say ganking would target noobs, because players who fail at tanking and loading up reasonably are the noobs, is just more nonsense.
You’re trying to patronise players for having to learn about the game. I’m pretty sure you’re just complacent and got nothing better to do. Just makes sense that you there also want to talk about CCP’s business, player retention and what CCP should do.
No. You don’t need to learn it all as a newbie. And that’s what the topic is about. That you as a veteran want to complain about it is only dishonest. Gankers don’t target noobs. They target the greedy and the dumb. You want to be their advocate, but not even new players will fall for it, because they might be new to the game, but that’s really all they are.
I’m not surprised that you want to see this changed. Everything you’ve so far written was self-serving. You then went on making excuses and now you’re even telling me about your background. But do you know who you’re really trying to convince? It’s yourself. Fact is, you don’t have a problem. So you invent them and want to tell others how to fix them.
Just play the game or take a break when you’re bored. They only thing broken here though is the record you’re playing. You don’t have a problem. That’s why you told me I was talking out of my backside. You’re nothing but bored.
Exactly. There isn’t a problem and no protection required. You’re only making things up and you don’t know how to counter it. The reason why you’re making up problems is because you’ve forgotten what a problem actually looks like. You wish you had one, so you’re making them up and to see what sticks. It doesn’t make them problems though.
If anything do players need to be exposed sooner rather than later to PvP. Ganking is just the result of all the greed that’s been driving through high-sec, with veterans stashing riches in safe space. It’s only understandable that players want to attack this. And every time a 10b+ freighter explodes does it further prove ganking right. Whose fault is it? It’s not CCP’s fault. If anything it’s the veterans who think they can get away with it, or worse, who think they should get away with it.
No. I’m saying your type of argumentation is fundamentally flawed, because you don’t actually have a problem. There is no problem and so there is no argument. It’s not a personal attack, but an observation on your rhetoric, which I need you to address first before we can actually have an argument.
One-sided PvP, as you call it, and I like how you see it, is the perfect answer to veterans who try to use indestructible NPC stations as their safe houses for holding their riches. You don’t really think that if veterans could fight all ganks they wouldn’t, and that they wouldn’t do so successfully, and use it to further build up their riches, do you?
You think this somehow needs to fair when veterans run off with their experience and riches? At what point does it become “fair” to you? I’m asking, because your view is simply is based on the idea of fairness, that you think it would need to be somehow fair when one could do something about gankers, when in fact ganking is a fight against the established veterans who use their experience and wealth to further build up their riches.
If you so will are gankers the Robin Hood in EVE’s high-sec. I just cannot blame them even when I’ve been a victim to them in the past myself. Ever since I play more carefully do they leave me in peace. Seems pretty fair to me now, especially when fairness is quite a rare commodity in EVE.
No, I’m still just saying that you don’t have a problem. And yes, all you have is an opinion and not something to argue about. You simply have nothing to argue about.
Your idea of a special group of players needing protection is pretty ridiculous on its own. I’m willing to listen to it, but there is just nothing in your opinion that would want me to take you serious.
It’s a PvP game and you may not like all the fighting, but then you’re also not supposed to nor expected to like it all. Of course it’s all meant to create conflict. You should know as much, yet you somehow want players protected from this conflict until they reach some point where they are no longer newbies. What exactly would this point be? Who is a newbie and who isn’t and so wouldn’t require protection? All you’re doing in the end is to create a two class society at best, but I’m still just thinking you’re only trying to get rid of ganking so you as a veteran can sneak through as newbie just to get richer.
Gankers don’t focus on newbies. They gank any anyone who isn’t prepared for it. The game is the lesson and it doesn’t need a pre-school to prepare new players to what’s coming for them. If anything then high-sec is the pre-school and ganking is the teacher of an important lesson.
You then speak of gankers on one side and of newbies on the other. As if gankers couldn’t be newbies themselves, but it would all have to be veterans ganking newbies.
So if it’s not just plain idiocy of yours, wanting to protect newbies, do I think you’re trying to use CCP to fight ganking for you so you can remain a rich and greedy veteran.
He’s a carebear trader.
He doesn’t care about newbies, he just wants “newbies to have it easier in regards to ganking” so that his trade alts will be easier to manage when moving stuff.
It’s never BEEN about newbies.
That’s exactly what I’m thinking. He just wants to use them, like a cute little kitten that needs protection, and to gain affection for his oh so noble cause. He is making things up, is far too polarised in his views, often makes little sense and lacks coherency that my current conclusion is that he is being dishonest. There is no “I have a problem, I cannot fix it, I need help!” discourse here. It’s just him standing on a box, wanting to be heard. He now wants to argue sentence by sentence, which only further tells me that he just doesn’t have a problem, but that he rather is in need of one.
There you go! Not a problem.
You just worry about your own game. Let CCP worry about player retention. They’ve managed to keep the game running for more than 15 years, and it’s still going strong. Rather ask yourself how your talk is seen by CCP when you try to diminish their experience and success by saying the game would somehow be dying and needed your help to save it.
You’ve attacked me by saying I was the one who talked out of his backside. I then wanted to know if your attack on me had any point to it at all or if you’re just trying to start a fight on the forum. I then don’t actually see you having an opinion, but you’re still only trying to create provocation and skew the reality in order to produce a picture of a problem so that CCP finally listens to you and to give you what you want. You say you have a problem and say that this is your opinion, but really you’re just being dishonest. I cannot help you unless you start being honest. And the last part of you “It’s less than a million a jump …” now that’s where I think you were being honest. Everything else you’ve said is a fabrication.
Topic has been Lucashed beyond repair at this point.
(O_o)
Yeah it is an attack, and quite personal.
Reported for spam.
-and anyone who read this thread, or any other thread you chose to spill your profuse tears in for pages and pages over years and years, will realize how dishonest you’re being here.
You’re a pussification advocate, just own that. Lots of other carebears lobby for the pussification of this game without feeling the need to lie about it.
What’s with people lying about publically available objective facts nowadays? That I will never understand… How do you figure being so blatantly dishonest can help your case?
Is there anything I can help you with? 
You being you is all I need.
That’s the most heartwarming compliment I’ve ever gotten around here. 
Your moving of the goal posts is noted buttercup.
Wut? You need to explain this to stupid ol’ me sweetie pie.
Whatever you say darling.
Now there’s only @Mike_Voidstar missing in here. 
Well that is your opinion dude, not that I particularly care about it, I am hardly screeching or insulting the guy for having a different opinion, Eve is not for everyone, he is screeching and insulting everyone for daring to play the game in the regards of how it is to be played.
I just gave OP a crashcourse on how Eve can be, whether he likes it or not, is not my problem, and maybe learn the difference between a harsh and blunt post to screeching, cos this was not the case, good talk.