Protection for newbies required

Also, let’s not. Let’s have some stats that you want to base this on first.

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I’m in this game for 13 years now and i feel sorry that some people deny or are not able to or even not willing to see that things have changed and that the same people are dogmatically opposing even the mostly needed changes here…

It’s sad…

And about “beeing unprofitable”…one first step is to make it less harsh…

What dogma?
What changes?

And for what reason ?

If you dont like apples, do you swap them for oranges and call them apples?

If you dont like EvE, why do you want to change it for those who do? Why not play the game you want to play?

You saying that and proving it are not the same thing. How do you intend to prove that, and secondly, why do you care if you dont like the game in the first place?

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yes, yes it can. eve has never been ‘market compatible’ yet it has survived this long, yes eventually the game will die, trying to prolong its life by changing it to make it ‘market compatible’ will only kill it faster

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i see what you are trying…it will not work…

there has to be made a first step even if people like you will not like it…

and yes…this means more carebearing

You are delusional.

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“EVE has ever been”…you see…that kind of thinking is the problem of all…EVE IS not more,can not go on like this…people are leaving and all YOU say is something like “hey we are driving on this road for 15 years now,let’s continue on it and drive straight into this abyss we can see but don’t care about”

people are leaving the game just like they do with all games. you don’t see every dying game suddenly implement drastic in an attempt to save themselves, they know when to quit. the problem is people like you that can’t let go of eve and cant accept the fact it will eventually die.

So driving into the abyss is better than to try everything to save it because the main thing is you do not change anything at all?

Is this your “solution”?

You cannot save the patient by cutting off its head

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yes, let it die with dignity, even if they did change the game to try and save it then the Eve we all love would be gone and replaced with something else.

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That’s no solution,no fighting,that’s simply giving up because you are not able to leave your dogmatic bubble…

That’s sad…

whats sad is that you can’t seem to let go of eve. it will die, most will move on except people like you that cant handle it and try and keep it alive

For someone accusing others of using dogmatic responses you do seem to like repeating the same phrases over and over.

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Well…i could have used harsher words but what would that be good for? :slight_smile:
The truth is the truth even if you cover it in cotton wool :stuck_out_tongue:

You can’t complain about people being dogmatic if you do it yourself, it has nothing to do with the “harshness” of your words.

Can you even give a list of three things you want to change, and why, and in what way this would improve the player numbers?

CCP not in charge anymore. We will see changes, sooner or later. In worst case scenario PA will just shut down EvE because it too small and not significant for their business.

Yes, “let’s pay $225 mill + $200 mill more just to shut the game down”.

There is some unique level of dumb in this forum at times.

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  1. no unwilling pvp in hig
    2.no gate camps
    3.no scanning out pve missions
    4.no scannable abyss exits
    5.quit scammers in the main hubs
    6.reduce alphas to frigates and t1 stuff only

just 6 of 3 for the start…

They paid not for EvE Online. They paid for studio, to use it’s staff and experience for other games and projects. PA don’t need EvE at all.