PSA: Next expansion will turn low sec into null and high sec into low sec

No they dont

The majority of players undock…which is something there is zero evidence you have ever done. Strange how that doesn’t seem to stop you spouting forth on activities for which there is absolutely no evidence you have ever been involved in.

There’s probably not much evidence of me undocking, yet I spent an hour ratting and salvaging today.

Just because players don’t lose ships every week/month doesn’t mean they don’t play, they just play smarter and safer :slight_smile:

Nor do any players have to prove a thing to you. It seems that you’re just trying to figure out where you stand on the PVP side of things, and I bet it’s pretty far down in the grand scheme of things.

So how about you just play your game and we’ll play how we PAY to play?

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You do realize that disagreeing is ignorant

Please stop disagreeing. It’s ignorant.

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But there is…8 killboard records, and its worth pointing out that these days even just doing level 2 security missions gets you guaranteed killboard records.

But I was responding to someone who comes on as if the fount of all knowledge on PvP/PvE…yet they have zero killboard and their account is barely 5 days old. And it is a consistent pattern here. Forum warriors who have picked up the entirety of Eve in 5 days…or who joined Eve some time ago and have a killboard but not a single record for 6 or 7 years. And of course, a lot of these people are likely alts…who are hiding their ā€˜true’ account, which nobody would do if it was anything to be proud of.

Well I’m sorry but they do. If someone wants to lecture me on PvP / PvE…I demand some evidence that they have ever actually done any themselves ! That is not an unreasonable demand.

ā€œlevel 2 security missions gets you guaranteed killboard recordsā€

Thats simply bs

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You seem upset. Have you ever heard of a forum alt?

Well that just shows you’ve never done a mission…as there are some where your ship is automatically destroyed.

Yes, people use them to pretend they have experience nobody can check up on :slight_smile:

Why do you need a forum alt ? Something to hide ? Or are you just cycling through them hoping everyone thinks its a new person expressing the exact same opinion ( coincidentally ) as all the other forum alts…lol.

Of course you’re right. I’ve never been anywhere or done anything.

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In the character you are posting on, you haven’t.

Is CCP working itself out of a job? I remember when the blackout went into effect, how many players quit, turning null into WH space how did that work out (huge blunder), and never came back. When a player leaves there is the risk they will move on and become interested in a game that doesn’t force them into a playstyle they don’t like. EVE used to be a game you can choose your path, now it’s the path that CCP wants you to take (control freak much). This would simply result in the entire game becoming LS/NS and half the playerbase quitting the game. a significant number of people never leave high-sec. Adding systems that lets highsec be gatecamped with smartbombs will simply result in the PvP players degrading the system status at the expense of the people who want to avoid PvP, but the PvP players will say ā€œThey can fight for the empireā€ but the whole point is they don’t want to PvP, and where are the rewards (new ships for the pirates) they don’t want to be forced to PvP, (other than an ocasional gate camp) and if you force a playstyle on people, they quit without a word because it’s no longer the game they want to play. Oh but there will be the .8 systems that you won’t be able to get to because they are surrounded by insta pop gates, and people playing EVE for the very first time. I agree with a lot of what has been said, and look are any systems being suppressed, let me check, never mind don’t need to. This reminds me of cellphone carriers where it’s beneficial to leave, and join a new one because the new one has better offers, and the old one doesn’t care because you have been a member why should you get anything you have only been a dedicated customer forever screw you. Just keep giving us your money, and shut up. But wait there is more, redistribution (things will get better) to all the major alliances, and corps in null. never happend bigger rocks more waste. ā€œYou don’t have to play if you don’t want toā€ Exactly what’s going through many minds Edited 11/19/23 2:36pm (PST time) the propaganda was a little strong, The goal is get players worked up as much as possible. Not going to lie I like propaganda.
P.S, CCP please return Skarkon back to Molden Heath

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That’s not what you said and implied. But, whatever makes you sleep well at night.

But in a sense your argument is somewhat self-contradictory…even though I agree with some of the sentiment…

CCP’s control of the game is via PvE content, which to all extents and purposes is the only thing countering the stagnant nature of nullsec. So you can’t simultaneously decry this ever increasing CCP content and then champion the very people who ā€˜want to avoid PvP’ and just do the PvE content. To my mind there has to be a counter to the ever more increased amount of PvE, and if its not going to come from the stagnant blocs incurring onto ā€˜safe’ space of their own accord then the only option is to make the safe space less safe.

What? CCP controls EVERY ASPECT of the game’s ā€œcontentā€. Why would you try to limit their involvement to ā€œPvEā€?

What I ā€˜implied’ was that the honest people come on as whatever ā€˜main’ they have…and not as an endless succession of 5 day old ā€˜noobs’.

See, a 5 day old ā€˜noob’ can just slink off and never be heard from again, or be replaced by another 5 day old noob, if they are wrong about anything, huh, whereas someone posting on their main is having the honesty to stand their ground.

Exactly it was about that when I did some moon mining yesterday, and the estamate in ore hold was 10M from a real estate agent, I haven’t tried to sell the ore because I don’t sell it I like to keep it for myself because i’m greedy like that.

No that’s nonsense. CCP control whether the 4 main races, or any of the pirate or other PvE factions can be over-run or wiped out. Even the parameters pertaining to whether individual systems get over-run are controlled by CCP. It’s not like CCP are ever going to allow players to wipe out the Caldaris, for example…even if one or two systems can be over-run.

But CCP don’t control whether nullsec alliance A over-runs and wipes out nullsec bloc B, or whether some highsec alliance moves into nullsec, and so on. At least I would hope not !

CCP makes all the rules, controls the market and security of each system. Not to mention ā€œDoling out punishmentā€ to actual players. Yet, you don’t think they control the game?

There coundn’t possibly be another explaination. Everything MUST fit into your narrative.

Who ever said that there’s only one God? :trident:

Yep. I use this char to post. My combat main who has seen the eve world out of empire is not aacount active, yet.

I could post on my angel militia…and then get ā€œpost on mainā€ since the 1 year old char can share stories about seeing delve in 2010. In short…I can’t win here lol.

Lowby sent to angels since I cba to fix my standing on this char. When in flose area…I do sites and pvp as it comes up. Not spam standings fleets. 9 years of killing angels I just said screw that lol. Not really hiding much. I have many deaths on that char. I am rusty as hell at this game. I am breaking many eggs. At some point I hope to make a damned omelette lol.

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