and still CCP says it’s forbidden.
There fore, it’s possible.
Therefore, you are wrong when claiming there is no RMT.
I forbid you from casting lightning bolt to kill another player. Therefore it must be possible for you to become at least a level 5 wizard and cast 3rd level arcane spells IRL.
You still have done nothing whatsoever to address the fact that you own nothing in EVE and therefore have nothing to sell.
Yeah but that’s just because you want to prove you are a moron.
CCP forbids to sell items for real money, therefore it’s possible to sell items for real money.
What you forbid to do in your brain, just talks about your brain.
Indeed, because that’s just more BS in your head. There is nothing to address because there is nothing of value in the first place.
Huh turns out I wasnt banned.
And this is still going on.
Remarkable.
Again, no it is not. Lawyers ban “impossible” things all the time. Let me give you some reasons why they might do so:
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Simplicity. By having a separate ban CCP doesn’t have to rely on people understanding the fact that all in-game items being owned by CCP makes selling in-game items impossible. They just ban it again and have a nice simple EULA statement to point to.
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Redundancy. By having a separate ban on selling in-game items even if something about the “we own all items” part of the EULA was found to be unenforceable CCP would still have the desired ban in place.
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Removal of loopholes. By having a separate ban CCP doesn’t have to deal with people like you who would nitpick endlessly about how words are defined. There’s no dispute over what action is banned, it says so right there in the EULA.
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Setting up the “or attempting to do so” part of the ban. Even if it not possible to successfully accomplish the banned actions CCP also, at the same time, bans attempting to do so.
Indeed, because that’s just more BS in your head.
Yes, the part of the EULA where CCP explicitly states that you do not own anything in EVE is clearly just “BS in my head”. Do you honestly think that anyone believes your idiocy?
Prostetution is forbidden in some areas. Therefore there is no thing as prostetution in the world. What does that word mean again? Does it exist?
Also selling for drugs doesn’t exist.
What a stupid disuccion. Why is that even a discussion?
People have RMTed in the past, some got banned for it. If it’s not possible, why did CCP ban them?
Not for video games.
There is no reason to ban anything not possible in a video game.
The fact that CCP forbids it, means it’s possible.
Again, RMTing is possible and gets you banned. RMTing does not, however, involve you buying or selling assets for cash because at all times CCP retains ownership of all in-game assets.
I just gave you several of them.
But it’s not possible according to yourself !
And that’s just wrong.
The simple fact that CCP forbids it, means it’s possible.
Your claim that RMT does not exist in Eve is just stupid.
Stop lying.
And that’s just wrong.
Oh really? How can you sell an asset that you do not own?
@Anderson_Geten, if I make a deal out of game to sell my Titan for $50 USD. And I transfer the Titan after receiving payment, that is RMT. Suggesting that I “owned” the Titan to begin with, which I don’t own it, CCP does. So now I transferred something that didn’t belong to me, to someone else for real money. And the buyer bought something that doesn’t belong to them after paying for it. Which most video games do not belong to the player, they are licensed just like EVE.
ask CCP then. They will tell you, how you actually can sell assets for RL money - and that RMT is possible, on the opposite of what you claim.
@Jerry_Falcone indeed, selling game items IRL does not require you to actually own the items
But that’s too much for him to understand.
What’s more, you don’t need to be selling goods to be selling something. You can sell an access, even if you don’t own the item accessed. In that case, selling the access is considered the same as selling the item - and that’s why its forbidden.
And here you understand what the idiot troll doesn’t: RMTing is purchasing a service, not an asset. The assets themselves still have zero monetary value.
This is so close to the real-life equivalent of selling goods, that refusing to call it that is nitpicking.
No, it’s a difference that is very significant. For example, if CCP catches you RMTing and removes the assets from your account there’s nothing you can do about it. At no point did you take possession of any assets, so CCP did not take anything of monetary value from you.
Also, if you hold that RMTing has monetary value then so does every other instance of asset transfer or loss in EVE. Someone blows up your ship? Sue them for the cash value of that ship. Etc.
Why write 3 sentences to explain the transaction if you can just call it “selling” and everyone knows what it means.
Exactly. Again, this is what you understand but the idiot troll doesn’t.
No, it’s purchasing an asset. You don’t purchase a service.
Just because something is illegal, doesn’t mean it is not real. Drug trafficing is very much selling drugs. If you get caught those drugs very well get confescated. Noone would argue that “you cannot sell drugs” because of that. This is not an arguement.
Oh really? What exactly is the asset being purchased, given the fact that CCP owns all in-game assets in EVE? What asset do you now own?
The one that CCP says you MAY NOT sell.
Learn to read, when ?
You don’t own that asset. CCP owns that asset. Try again.