Resource Redistribution Update

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It all depends on what you mine in and how you mine.

In low sec, in general, you don’t need a big security force. One or two combat ships will do in most systems. And, of course, you can fly expedition frigs and then you really don’t need any. Sure your yield will drop versus barges/exhumers, but not a ton.

Our corp has a c2/low WH which means we have access to a different low sec system every day. That hasn’t been a mining focus for us (we’ve been using the anoms in the WH) but with those going away, it will become more of a focus.

Remember that most of LS is very empty and this isn’t going to change that. The WH entrance generally gets you out of the camped space adjacent to HS and into very quiet low sec space.

Again, I don’t support these changes. They are stupid/desperate. But, it’s not as end of the world for small corps (we are one) as you make it out to be.

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@CCP_Dopamine
Pyerite and Mexallon are missing from the security zone chart. Based upon the reprocessing chart and the listed asteroid belt changes, I assume that they will be available in all areas of space (in different quantities). Is this correct?

Also, the complete loss of HS ore anoms is kind of sad. They felt like mini gold rushes when I was young player, and were always an exciting find.

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I’ve played since 2013, it was the player based indy aspect that hooked me (plus the fact that ship fits are situation, no “prefect fit for all occasions”) I remember when they made changes that helped small independent groups. The direction the last few updates has taken, makes me feel like i’m no longer welcome here

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Just from the top of my mind: revert to the pre-citadel gameplay and mechanics, remove structures, make rorquals useless again, return (and improve on) walking on stations, introduce maintenance upkeep for all capitals, write more storyline and lore content (just ANY), make missions more diverse, unscrew standings system
Done. You are awesome. HUUUGE success

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Really? Here:
Prices on basically everything will go up.
People will be less willing to risk their expensive toys because they won’t be able to replace them.
People are going to start stockpiling minerals—especially Nocx, Iso, and Zydrine—right now to try to ride this out as much as possible.

Let’s see how I do.

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Shhhht! Don’t talk bad about Hilmar!

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I agree with each of those but that’s not the total impact.

It’s destabilizing a system in a massive way…not possible to predict how it’s all going to sort.

And by the way, I think this is stupid/desperate on CCP’s part.

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@CCP_Dopamine and other Devs.

This is a good change coming and I support it.

For everyone else…

If part of CCP’s goal is to curtail HS industry, in part this one way to do it whilst at the same time forcing more interaction with other areas of space. Lets face it, attempts to get players to more actively move to LS or NS have not produced any significant results.

Maybe more trade of ore and minerals will come out of this, the movement of them surely will increase by necessity. Meaning more opportunity for Piracy and other such nefarious acts, remapping of trade routes. Heck we might even get to see escorted transport fleets (something I have never seen but heard once was something that was done in the long past) and increased PvP over systems for resources.

Nullsec should be the king of Industry, right now HS is pretty much, sure NS builds Capitals and Supers by the dozens, but come on The Forge has a very high marks if not the king of production on the MER’s.

Putting things like Crok in LS anoms, let alone primary area for Noxcium…it shakes things up a little, probably sooner rather than later it makes LS the place where all things meet as everyone will eventually need to go there, or deal with those that live there and carved out territory.

Making HS the place to get Trit, well alts of NS can come mine it themselves(how boring lol), or bots can come get ganked trying to acquire it. Or people can just use markets and make deals with those that want to live there and go on their merry way of doing what they really want to do.

All in all, thanks CCP for this coming change, EvE needs a shake up and I think this will do it in large part, considering the comments already on this thread.

Capsuleers, adapt or die that is the EvE way when things like this come at us.
o7

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It’s been my experience that LS has been like getting lost and ending up in a bad neighborhood and a bunch of gangsters are waiting to roll you.

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HS industry is not the problem. Null combat anoms are the problem (and bots in particular). Until that faucet is reduced, all of this is whistling past the graveyard.

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for point 3 : Already done they have consider super are mainline ship in 0.0 and hard nerf EHP.

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I was going to write a critical detailed response, but I realize there is no point.

I used to think CCP just didn’t understand Eve industry. This blog reveals it is far worse than that. Not only does CCP not understand industry, but CCP has a real hatred of industry.

After killing-off hisec industry with Quantum cores, the last few remaining hold-outs are likely to fold because of increased fuel costs, and lack of materials to build anything, and hisec will become the bastion of Athanors and unrigged Tataras.

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If you stay near HS that is undoubtedly true. But most of low sec is more like an empty neighborhood that people occasionally roll through. You dock or safe when they do. They don’t stay long and then you go about your business.

Before we were in the hole regularly, I thought the same way you did. Landing in random low sec systems once or twice a day changes your view pretty rapidly.

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Oh that’s brilliant! making ore harder and rarer. till its 2bil for a bloody destroyer hull and we doing fleets in rookie ships! well done CCP brain power! did Fozzy think of this?

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What makes you think Corona will be gone? Viruses don’t simply go away you know. Just saying.

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You really haven’t been paying attention, have you? CCP started all of this a year ago because Nullsec had too much industry. If NS has a massive amount of industry, we will put it toward the things we need the most. And until/unless CCP actually get off their butts and fix sov warfare and supercapitals, what we need the most… are titans. Absolutely as many as we can get.

And that’s where the problems in other places come from. People complain about ‘I was roaming in null and they dropped titans on our cruiser gaaaaang!’? Well, yeah. Cuz we’ve got titans. And we’re bored and want to use them. So we drop them on stuff whenever we can.

Shocking, I know, people using the things they want to use, in situations where they feel like they can do so without pointlessly risking something that took a lot of time/effort to get.

As for the Forge… of course the Forge has more production. That’s what happens when there’s a central trade hub: it’s easier to move compressed minerals to that location than to move anything else, so things get produced there.

But no, CCP isn’t trying to curtail HS industry. CCP’s trying to curtail industry. All of it. All over. Because they think that’s how you get the amount of assets to go down in a game where nothing has wear and tear, and nothing requires upkeep costs.

Nobody has to pay their crews. Nobody has to maintain their crap. At most, you gotta dump fuel in a structure once a month, and that’s only if you’re lazy enough to have not put 20 years of fuel into it (WHICH YOU CAN DO).

Also:

You know why we don’t see that anymore? BECAUSE IT SUCKED TO HAVE TO DO IT. Seriously, bring that back, and you’ll see even more people decide ‘holy crap, I am not 19 anymore, I do not have TIME for your bullshite, CCP, I’m done.’

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That is probably the most insightful thing i have heard so far. Your hypothesis explains a lot. The recent changes (starting at around the Kicking Over Castles update) would suggest that ALL decisions made by CCP are being made by the CEO’s 12 year old that thinks everyone fighting everyone would be “cool”

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Largely completely unchanged, in fact. The large groups will adapt better and minimize the impact they feel, everyone else will have to suck it up. These changes hit everyone, across the board, exactly evenly. As a result, they won’t disrupt the board. They’ll just make the ante higher.

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i think best thing for everyone to do go to a single account as an alpha see what they then do i say this as my accounts need plexin in 3hours

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They don’t really want cut industry …
They want CONTROL it.
In fact if they arrive to make the limitedf factor for bulding is tritanium for exempl and control the dailly spawn they could know the maximum of ship we will have with it. So they will adjust to the pop to level of destruction.
P.S: Nerf of reprocessing loot coming soon.

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