I would love to know what was said and how all that transpired. Secondly as you know. You have not actually had an impact on my game play. Where as you have others. Kurissa kills are just that. But personally I am not getting bumped. As for the restraining order it was just be a fun new mechanic.
The only logical response to your desperate pleas is laughter. Fly Fearless is destined to be nothing more than a punchline. If that is the role you wish to play in this game, so be it. Please enjoy.
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What were my plead to authority again?
You are proposing a new mechanic in direct response to the conflict between our two groups. The only party capable of implementing a new mechanic is CCP. If you fail to understand how your posts represent a plea to authority, youāre among the most confused members of your group. To quote you, āseek help.ā
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Did I not say that it is up to CCP to implement a new mechanic that benefits both sides, creates a lot of content and makes things more interesting. Excuse me I will say it again. It is up to CCP to make such a decision. In your thousands of emails to MRM, you have stated that Kalorned is all about creating content. So I fail to see how this is a plea, but, more an opportunity. But, as we all know your are a master manipulator of words, especially in spoofing emails. So words tend to be lost on you and the likes.
No itās called whining on the forums for CCPs help. Innovation is if you use your own brain and come up with new ways to use the game mechanics in your favour to win. AKA playing the game.
There is nothing special or skill full or even to respect if someone cries for rule changes. It is just a clear sign that you are bad at the game and should either invest some time and effort to get better or maybe just ask for advice. Hell people even offered you help in this very thread, but you refuse.
Itās also up to CCP to simply ignore stupid ideas like yours.
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Changing the rules to fit your needs is not the same as adapting. With the amount of time you have wasted ābrainstormingā you could have been talking to a New Order agent about purchasing a mining permit. High Sec is New Order space, and we have a duty to defend it by whatever means necessary. Freedom isnāt free!
As a former member of anti-ganking I can think of a few ways to counter a bumper, most of which have already been mentioned in this thread and in others. All counter bumping requires just as much dedication and skill as the bumper doing the bumping. Itās PVP so whichever team is more dedicated and has more skill will win. I personally believe that it is far harder to gank a freighter than it is to take out a bumping mach.
However, begging CCP to change the rules because you lack the skills or the dedication to implement those tactics is sad and cringe-worthy. You deserve to be laughed under the table.
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Iām not sure what MRM miners are, however looking at Kalornedās killboard:
and then the api data on those kills:
https://zkillboard.com/api/character/588922615/kills/page/1/
https://zkillboard.com/api/character/588922615/kills/page/2/
https://zkillboard.com/api/character/588922615/kills/page/3/
and running the victim_ids through the ESI to get the character sheet:
https://esi.tech.ccp.is/ui/#/Character/get_characters_character_id (here directly, but better and faster by api call to do all of them)
For example, using the ESI interface, hereās my public information:
As shown there, the birthdate of characters is publicly available.
So taking that field and comparing it to the killmail_time shows:
0 kills of one day old character present
I could do a more detailed analysis and plot how old all his victims have been at the time of death, but I canāt so far see any evidence of what you are claiming.
Just looking at his killboard by eye shows a lot more than killing miners.
Again twisting things as you know full well Kalornedās tactics. He rarely ever attacks directly. He only bumps and then brings his marmite alt on to destroy only after the person has gone afk, with an hour or better of bumping. Did I really need to explain this to you? Probably not, but, evidently you ignore the true nature of it.
How would I know his tactics? I donāt even know who he is at all. It was your example. I just looked for validation of what you wrote.
It isnāt there, unless you can help me out here. It just looks like, what happens a lot here on the forum, personal bias and opinion is assumed to be true. Yet it doesnāt stack up to the data.
Happy to be wrong, but I just canāt see the truth of your own statement right now.
You can ask anyone in MRM. They will tell you the same thing. Its because there is no recorded data on it. Because, if he doesnāt attack then it didnāt happen. What he does doe is red box to keep the player from safe logging out. But, that is nothing new because thats what most gankers do. He just has someone else perform the gank. Itās not alleged unless I am 100% delusional. This method is well documented, how do you think others find out about it?
This is goldā¦
So what you say is you recruit day old new players into a corp under wardec and then without giving them advice or protecting them you feed them to the enemy? Whos fault is that if not yours?
Maybe they should join CODE. instead. We teach them how to win at EVE from day one and have fun playing the game.
So we actualy retain players while you just make them sad so they quit. I hope Tweeps and Kalorned will liberate those poor new players and bring justice to the likes of you.
Iām really really glad we have people like those two around. They make EVE better for everyone.
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Red box would have him CONCORDED. Do you mean yellow box?
They were your own words I checked. If you mean something else, help me out. Happy to validate it, but now it appears that itās all āno recorded dataā (even for Kalorned, who you claimed kills 1 day old characters and exclusively miners).
So MRM (whoever that is) recruit day old characters during a wardec and give them no assistance or help at all on how to survive?
The CEO needs to be AWOXed tbh. Heās the one doing the new players a massive disservice, but I bet heās happy to collect taxes on them.
Highsec Corps without really good practices and training, shouldnāt be recruiting new players during a wardec.
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yes, yellow box, regardless, it keeps them from safe logging.
Itās not alleged unless I am 100% delusional.
100% delusional? No. Delusional? Well, you are in Fly Fearless, and you are requesting a ārestraining orderā mechanic. Iād say more like 95% delusional. 95% seems to be Fly Fearlessā magic number. 95% delusional, 95% inactive, 95% snuggly. What is the deal with that?
We at Assistance Group are here to help Mission Ready Mining in every way we can. Assistance Groupās hands on approach to training gives Highsec miners the edge they need to rid Highsec of the Tunnel Snake menace. This means defeating not only the Tunnel Snakes, but their sympathizers and puppets as well. We provide our Highsec partners with a variety of exciting training opportunities, including: bumping, ganking, and more. This training prepares our partners for the tactics employed by our shared enemy.
We encourage our gold subscribers such as JunTuu to share their training experiences with the greater eve online community; the more people who come to know of the Tunnel Snake menace the better.
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Sure, Scipion what ever you want to say. Its your word against mine at that moment. You want to logically prove it in the absence of proof it obviously never existed. This is why its hard to convict rapist, because if you canāt prove it, it did not happen right?
Why is there no proof? Killmails get produced for every loss, ragardless of whether they make their way to zkill. They go to the vitctim and the character with the final blow (or the final character, if the final blow was an NPC). Theyāll also go to the Corp kills/losses list in game.
If you want to prove it, go ask MRM for the killmails and then post the screenshots in here. That will prove what you are saying.
This forum is always full of misinformation and people that claim stuff that is just plainly false. So I regularly look at statements and see if I can see how they are true. So far, your claims just donāt stack up, yet itās absolutely incorrect that there is no proof. The proof is automatically generated by the killmail server, so it has to be available somewhere.
You know very well why. Because he never fires a shot. He lets Kurissa do that. But, this again was not about Kalorned directly, he was used as an example only. You can continue to deny it and I am quite sure if CCP looked up the comments many of the people commenting here will come from the same addresses. VPN still have a Public address and origination point. It is funny to think that a VPN will hide origination. Additionally, if not a VPN, it will go directly back to the source. Again, this was not about removing people, blaming people or anything else. Additionally, I have not whined or anything of that nature. No do I need to provide proof of the alleged action because the blame is not being laid. The point and you have made it very well is that there is griefing and that a mechanic that works for and against both sides could be implemented. As stated many times, a fallacy is just that. It leads from the main topic of discussion and addresses the problem with false accusations and beliefs and other non-relavent item to prove a persons point of view. The mechanic is sound and could be implemented. There is no real argument against it, but, what you try to lead away from it. This specific fallacy is called a red herring. The mechanic would work, like it or not. You can try to say that I am the only one that benefits, but, it is simply untrue. Do I benefit, absolutely, other wise I would not have brought it up.
No need. I live in Australia:
My posting history shows that quite well. Iām not posting on any other character here.
Well, tbh, based on what I can actually verify for myself, it looks purely like the why is simply that you are wrong.
We all like to think we are right, but often our own bias, affects our perceptions. Thatās why objective data is always good and worth looking at. Itās the only way in these discussions to really know.
So if itās Kurissa (edit: from zkill, looks like Kurisa Ongrard) and MRM means Mission Ready Mining (and Marmite love a green killboard, so the kills will all be on zkillboard), then thatās also easy to look at and see if what you are writing is correct.
Iāll update this post.
Edit:
Still doesnāt play out as described (this is the figures in the last 2000 losses by MRM in highsec)
And I notice from that screenshot Juntuu that you just died to her recently (in a Gila, not a mining ship), so I can understand the butthurt that has appeared in this thread.