Thanks for getting in touch!
I didn’t know about the previous chart at all @Altrue but, IMHO, your revision is utterly brilliant.
I’m currently dropping in the final hyperlinks so the project is almost finished, but I’d really like to give you a look at it when I send it out to the review panel people. If you’re interested in this, please send me an in game email with a RL email address that you’re happy for me to send a PDF to (to avoid your email address appearing here.
Thanks!
I’m excited to see the final iteration as well. Definitely will be linking it to both new and old players so they know ways to mix up their gameplay!
Short Update …
Half of the hyperlinks are now done - PvE, Corps/Alliances and PvP.
PvP isn’t really my strong suite so tracking down good (or what I think are good) links for this stuff was a bit challenging.
Right from the beginning my intention was to make sure that the chart captures, hopefully, all of the various game play styles in Eve (even the ones that I’m not 100% conversant with) so hopefully when it’s finished there’ll be something for everyone in it.
Short Update …
Real life work - sadly I don’t have (yet) the luxury of independent wealth - conspires to stop me working on the chart from time to time and the last few weeks have been particularly busy.
Having said this, about three quarters of the the hyperlinks are now done - PvE, Corps/Alliances, PvP and Community are now all finished with just Industry to go.
The main difficulty with the hyperlinking has been the research time involved.
Some content has been really easy to link to, but some has involved a fair bit of online research, some reading and lots website comparison to make sure that the link on the chart is, as far as possible, the best information that’s out there.
I’m trying to pick solid links that are accurate (in terms of content and usefulness) and also robust (insofar as they’re unlikely to disappear soon) meaning that the chart (hopefully) won’t get broken fast (but yearly, or more often, revisions are anticipated).
I’ve leant fairly heavily on the utterly brilliant Eve University, supplemented by the best that CCP has online as well as a bunch of independent sources where appropriate.
In addition to the physical chart, I’m considering making the links list available as a really basic RTF document at the end so that there can be both an interactive and flat version of the chart (that will download with the RTF links list) available.
I am gradually getting there, albeit somewhat slowly.
I was thinking about a category you could add, it wouldn’t be something that could be done all the time. But usually when lore events happen. They usually drop encrypted fragments or some other items to extract lore from. Usually during these events corporations like ARC will put out bounties to buy the items from other players.
Does one really need almost two years for this, to make a sheet with some links?
If we get a piece of lore, can we destroy it or hold it ransom and force the roleplayers to pay us for the release of the lore (which we can still destroy)?
That apparently happened in the recent past. Someone got the one single McGuffin item and didn’t want to relinquish it to any of the empires to continue the plotline. Surprise, CCP didn’t plan for that outcome, they thought everyone is a simp for one of the four empire factions.
CCP apparently is keen to never design lore drops this way again.
Apologies for the delays guys. Aside of the research that I’ve been doing *see below) real life keeps tripping me up. Bah!
One big issue has been tracking down good web links for the activities (the skill path boxes are hyperlinked for extra info on demand). Some have been very straightforward to track down (eg: PI) but some are proving quite elusive.
What I might do in the very near future is post a wish list of career paths that I’m missing links for on here and see if I can extract some useful pointers from the Eve Forum hive mind.
It will definitely be finished this year though, I really am almost there.
It’s never good to rush something, it always ends up being messed up in one way or another, for example take a look at CCP’s track record for game updates…
Anyway, best of luck to you and may you have much success. Especially since there’s only a couple of months left in this year…
Indeed hope it gets done sooner or later but no need to rush it as a quality delivery even if beyond the estimated time frame is better than a rushed one within it. Good luck!
Some more progress made…
Sections now finished:
PvE
Wormholes, Exploration, Ratting, Incursions – 19 separate career activity cards.
Corporations/Alliances
Corporation, Alliance - 14 separate career activity cards.
PvP
Missions, High-Sec Space, Piracy, Solo, Scamming, Anti-Piracy – 40 separate career activity cards.
Community
Volunteering, Out-Of-Game, In-Game, Education – 32 separate career activity cards.
Industry
Extraction, Hauling, Production, done; just Market still to be finished…
Separate RTF document created to manage the included links which lists all hyperlinks that exist in the document.
Literally almost there now…
Mini Update
All hyperlinks have now been double checked.
I am missing a few sources of a good web page for the following career cards …
Corporations > Alliance > High Value Target Hunting
Corporations > Alliance > Special Interest Groups
Corporations > Alliance > IT Specialist (as in the role within a corporation or alliance
… so feel free to suggest.
Now I’m just adjusting the final positioning and sorting out the account icon on each card.
This is great work well done
It is done.
Well, the first (Beta) draft anyhow.
Wow. On some levels I can’t quite believe it because it was such a massive slog to get to this point, but I finally got there.
Copies of the chart and the release notes have now gone off to the members of the review panel by email, as well as to some people I know in CCP for their constructive criticism and feedback. (tagging the people who I know are on here just so that they know to check their inboxes … @Mike_Azariah, @Altrue, @Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras, @Han_Zealot)
Once I get this feedback back there’ll most likely be a further series of amendments, and another draft, based on the feedback, before I finally upload a final version (most probably to Dropbox) for public download.
When this goes ‘live’ the plan is to have the following available as downloadable resources:
A interactive PDF version of the Eve Online Career Chart
In PDF format with clickable hyperlinks that are relvant to the section of chart that you’re on;
Extracts of the five genre headings as interactive PDFs
Separate PDFs for each career genre: PvE, PvP, Industry, Corporations/Alliances and Community;
Poster Size Printable PDF
A version of the chart as a high resolution PDF - good for printing out yourself and/or taking to the local print shop, should you want something cool/awesome for your wall.
An RTF list of all the hyperlinks in the interactive chart
I really created this as a way of managing the hyperlinks as I was including them, but recognising that some people might want to download the printable version but still be interested in the links, it makes sense to make this available for download too.
In terms of why it’s taken this long to get to this point, can I blame real life for getting in the way? On top of the fact that I figured if I was going to do the project, I wanted to do a really good job of it, and I think I may have just done this, in the end.
There are around 9,748 individual graphical elements in the chart along with as many hyperlinked boxes. The links go to brilliant webpages that all pilots in New Eden are going to find helpful - Eve University, CCP Info sites, YouTube videos - hopefully it’ll really be worth the wait.
Thank you to everyone who has given me support so far on this project. Like I said, at times it really has been a slog but the fact that you had my back has meant the world to me, and the positive comments and support have really helped to keep me going.
Just a little while longer guys and we’ll be there…
Hopefully you also included links to some of the ‘Guide’ threads in these forums…
Take your time, you still have a couple months left in the year…
Best be a Santa and double check it twice…
As it happens there isn’t actually a direct link to a bunch of the forum stuff but there definitely will be a link to the best guide thread ever, namely: Full list of EVE Guides in one place
If you’d like me to review as well, feel free to PM me in the Official EVE discord if you’re in it.
I’m not in the Discord but if you PM me an email address (either here or in-game) I can send you a download link - I’m not posting it here openly because it’s at a ‘closed beta’ stage.
Feel free to check it out and/or get other ISDs to have a look at it. Thanks.
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