Bookmarks don’t help if you’re on the post-jump side of a gate; you start at zero speed.
That’s why you bring a webber
Gf
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That’s not exactly true
There is no time limit lol
A guy in a Talos once bumped me for 4h …
If the griefers have enough stamina, they can bump you till the next downtime.
Bookmarks can help even on gates. A web toon helps either to web or to provide a mobile warp-out spot. It’s also a handy scout.
OP mentioned “haulers” being unable to dock, an active player warps to an insta-dock bookmark within station so this issue doesn’t exist.
Can we get this minecraft term outta here pls?
Ty for the correction then, I thought they had implemented it already XD
Apparently not(?) I heard of the 3-minute warp-off timer a year ago, not sure if it got implemented or not… Knowing CCP probably not as it took 10 years to add a “loot all” button not to mention more complicated code… xP
This timer was supposed to save/ help people bumping inside derpy invisible and outdated collision boxes… at least tin theory… in practice if you “need to gtfo” and start bumping the scenery you gonna probably die (or get tackled) within 3 minutes anyway.
Yeah it was never added. Longest I’ve ever kept a single freighter bumped was 4 hours.
Like collation and damage and possibly being stuck together inside their Shields… Maybe damage them by self destruct… Like Star Trek Nemesis
Does that DMC dude always disappear after he makes a fool of himself?
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Seems like it.
Reason got the better part of him 
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@DeMichael_Crimson your pride is here in this thread, waiting.
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Or you know, he’s not bothering to engage when he’s going to get trolled and the goalposts shifted no matter how reasonable an argument he manages to produce. Because you lot really were trolling him rather than bothering to read.
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His arguments were those of someone who knows nothing of the matter.
And instead of trying to argue with a veteran bumper, he should have walked away.
buuuuuuuuuuuuuut he didn’t… so there’s that
His arguments were also intitally based around the Op’s scenario of eternal bumping with no other action. Not anything to do with ganking at all. When people move an argument on someone, that persons logic often gets left a bit twisted to start with since they normally still are thinking the old argument. And you all then perpetuated the topic change.
Yes, Bumping can totally be used for ganking, but bumping someone simply to frustrate them is pretty… yeah. People should be able to achieve things & log off from the game safely after a reasonable length of time of interactions. Simply stalling someone for hours is a great way to lose a player, far far more so than ganking that player. Ganking them at least something happened and they can desire revenge, or to do better next time. Getting bumped for hours is just sucky.
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Not being a ganker, he made the assumption that the guy was getting bumped just because the bumper wanted to bump. So did I.
If the bumped guy never logs off and the bumper never starts the gank, it is not an unreasonable assumption with immediately available information to the freighter pilot that the bumper is just bumping to ruin someone’s day just because.
What’s even worse is that what the bumper was doing (trying to get a target to rage-logoff so he can pop it more easily) seems to be encouraged by current mechanics. That’s not a very good thing. Neither is making it a soft requirement to multibox gank fleets, which the 3-minute warp timer they were talking about would. Hmm…
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Maybe he was a ganker, maybe he wasn’t. Either way having to sit online for hours while being bumped is not good game play.
The easy solutions also aren’t great though, forcing everyone who wants to fly a freighter to have a webbing alt sucks & doesn’t actually stop you getting ganked if the gankers want to get you, an arbitrary timer for warp also isn’t great. Changing bumping physics also introduces other issues, though having your ship get back down to max speed very fast could help but changes other things. I’ve my own idea of a decent solution, but well, others will disagree with that also I’m sure and it’s far less simple.
The one thing I do know is that player engagement is what matters. And watching someone play soccer with your ship for hours is not engaging at all.
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Where does the OP say hours? Where do these numbers come from? You are creating your own scenario that makes it seem like lots of people are bumped for hours for no reason other than to troll or grief. Where’s your proof? You have to show us where this happens.
It’s common for bumpers to try and bump the freighter out of sentry range so their ships don’t die before CONCORD lands to seal the deal. So the mentality that the moment you get bumped, a gank fleet should follow or it’s senseless griefing is insane. The 3-minute timer really isn’t needed because it’s not a common thing to see freighters bumped for hours. Can it happen - yes. Has it happened - yes. Is it common enough occurrence to make a real issue out of - no. I can reasonably say this because I’m one of maybe a small handful of people that bump freighters. Until CCP gives us an actual timer or says you can’t bump for more than 20 minutes it’s just a grey-area mechanic that falls within what’s allowed to happen.
As far as @DeMichael_Crimson is concerned… he was spreading misinformation. I attempted to correct him and he didn’t like it. Instead of saying something like, “ah yeah sorry. You might be right. Maybe I should go test the mechanics and find out for sure”, he chose to troll me… someone that does have experience with these mechanics. So when someone spreads misinformation and is acting like a turd in the process, yeah they’re gonna get trolled. I just wish he’d finish the job he started here instead of running away ashamed.
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Uhmmm…we have no idea how long the bumping was for. Clearly the OP was frustrated, but it might have been bumping for 25 minutes or maybe a few hours.
You are assuming here.
Exactly right. Exactly how many people are being bumped for hours on end? My guess damn few.
BTW, you are defending somebody who can’t be arsed to actually keep up with this topic.
Yet both of you have just also attacked me going 'You have no idea what Op was meaning, it might have been a gank, etc’
While ignoring the point of what I said.
So yeah, you would just troll DMC some more if they came back since you’ve just treated me exactly the same way in this thread.
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